Romans 6, as the former poster showed, teaches we were baptized into the death of Jesus thereby making His death become OUR DEATHS. That means our union to Christ allows us to say WE DIED WITH HIM. This in turn means we were BURIED WITH HIM. And then it follows that we were RESURRECTED WITH HIM, and this all occurred spiritually, which has nothing to do with the fact that there is a second resurrection that shall occur later, as
1 Cor 15 put a resurrection in Paul's future long after Paul was already spiritually resurrected through salvation.
The resurrection mentioned in
Romans 6 is not the resurrection of
1 Cor 15. In
Romans 6, Paul said Christ died ONCE to sin and is now alive (resurrected) unto God forevermore. Then he proceeded to say that we must likewise reckon ourselves DEAD INDEED unto sin and ALIVE (resurrected) unto God THROUGH JESUS. In other words, because Jesus experienced these things, and we came into union with Him by salvation, then we are to realize we experienced these things spiritually as well. And Paul continued to teach that this is the basis for us to come into a lifestyle that has victory in everyday life situations. But we have to consciously understand these facts as being true for us and stand on them in order to have the confidence we can really have victory in every day life.
Romans 6:6-11 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. (7) For he that is dead is freed from sin. (8) Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: (9) Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. (10) For
in that he died, he died unto sin once:
but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
(11) Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin,
but alive unto God
through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Then Paul finally tells us to present ourselves to God KNOWING we are alive from the dead (resurrected) in
Romans 6:13, in order for God to be able to empower us with His Spiritual strength, since it requires our faith in that experience of being spiritually resurrected in order for God to be able to bless us and enjoy such a risen life.
Colossians 2 mirrors that teaching and says we are buried with Him in baptism and risen with Him as well (resurrected) through faith in the operation of God.
Again, that is not a preterist thing. It is intended to be understood by every believer.
But it just ain't preached much any more!
Since people were SAVED at Pentecost, that means they died, were buried
and resurrected with Jesus. Salvation is death, burial and resurrecton with Jesus. This is supposed to be elementary, as the former poster showed.
TGBGT, your question shows the same issue Paul had to deal with in the Romans. They were saved but never
knew these facts about their salvation. Too many do not know these thoughts.
Romans 6:3 Know ye not...?
Romans 6:6 Knowing this...
Romans 6:9 Knowing...
Romans 6:16 Know ye not...?
So many never heard it preached that we died WITH Jesus so that we could say we were RESURRECTED WITH HIM. This needs to be preached more!
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