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Old 11-16-2010, 11:20 AM
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There's no need for a federal education entity. The states can handle their own education regulations. They need to save the 50-100-150 billion and shut the federal education oversight down.
I often thought, "What does a politician or bureaucrat in Washington D.C. have to do with my child's education here in Ohio?" But, I wonder if we still went by "states' rights" and no federal intrusion, would we still have segregation and inferior schools for certain ethnic groups under the old "separate but equal" philosophy.

Abraham Lincoln pretty well destroyed the 10th amendment in his day and the feds have been kicking it while it is down ever since.
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Obama cleary denies not getting the message. He will however try to take credit for ideas and not give credit to the Republicans.
Now the Dems are against earmarks. Why? They don't want the enemy to use a system they abused.
Actually, when Dems brought this up before, it was our fellow GOP'ers that were against cutting earmarks because it would give the President too much power.
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Old 11-16-2010, 11:27 AM
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I often thought, "What does a politician or bureaucrat in Washington D.C. have to do with my child's education here in Ohio?" But, I wonder if we still went by "states' rights" and no federal intrusion, would we still have segregation and inferior schools for certain ethnic groups under the old "separate but equal" philosophy.

Abraham Lincoln pretty well destroyed the 10th amendment in his day and the feds have been kicking it while it is down ever since.

I think the proper balance of Federal to State government is so important.

Without "federal intrusion" change would be much, much slower.

That was proven ever so clearly during the Reconstruction Era.

The Civil Rights Act of the 1960's would never have passed or been uniformly adopted by all 50 states-- the issues and situations in each state vary a great deal too.
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Old 11-16-2010, 11:28 AM
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I often thought, "What does a politician or bureaucrat in Washington D.C. have to do with my child's education here in Ohio?" But, I wonder if we still went by "states' rights" and no federal intrusion, would we still have segregation and inferior schools for certain ethnic groups under the old "separate but equal" philosophy.

Abraham Lincoln pretty well destroyed the 10th amendment in his day and the feds have been kicking it while it is down ever since.
I so completely agree with the last statement. The Civil War was about the centralization of government and we are living the consequences of that way of thinking today.

I don't believe that there would be any more chance of segregation in the US without federal intrusion than there was in any other civilized country.

The mid to latter part of the 1800's was a time of an evolution in the thinking of mankind. Every country in every corner of the world was ending slavery. There was no need for war. It was a time of changing of the human mind. A coming away from a mindset that has been with us in all parts of the world since the beginning of time.

The change was happening everywhere and it was going to finish it's course. Mankind's thinking was evolving. Any major change in man comes with upheaval and resistance but it is destined to succeed and there is no power that can stop it from finishing it's path.

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Old 11-16-2010, 11:32 AM
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I think the proper balance of Federal to State government is so important.
The "proper balance" is found in the constitution.

The constitution lines out very specific power for the federal government and then states that ALL powers and authorities not enumerated in that document remain with the states and the people.

This has been long since forgotten.

But... if you want the proper balance... read the constitution. It spells it out nicely.
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The "proper balance" is found in the constitution.

The constitution lines out very specific power for the federal government and then states that ALL powers and authorities not enumerated in that document remain with the states and the people.

This has been long since forgotten.

But... if you want the proper balance... read the constitution. It spells it out nicely.
That means Jermyn's lib friends are ursurping their authority.
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That means Jermyn's lib friends are ursurping their authority.
Jermyn's lib friends are AMONG those usurping their authority. The con's are doing the same thing.

Have you ever heard of the Patriot Act?
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