Get uncomfortable with Muslims on an Airplane?

[Praxeas]

Given the context of the incident, the poll does not fit. He was not bothered by "muslims" on a plane.

"I mean, look, Bill, I'm not a bigot. You know the kind of books I've written about the civil rights movement in this country," Williams said Monday.


"But when I get on a plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they're identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."

Also, just for the record as this has nothing to do with the poll but here is his explanation as to why he said that

"They take something totally out of context," Williams said Thursday night, adding that his point was that Americans must come to grips with their prejudices.

"I have always thought of journalism, in a way, as a priesthood. you honor it you protect it," he said, before criticizing his former employer. "These people don't have ay sense of righteousness, of what's right here. They're self righteous."

Williams said NPR wanted to get rid of him because of his contributions to Fox News.

"I don't fit in their box," he said "I'm an unpredictable black liberal."
Ailes, in making his announcement, said, “Juan has been a staunch defender of liberal viewpoints since his tenure began at Fox News in 1997. He’s an honest man whose freedom of speech is protected by Fox News on a daily basis.”

[Walks_in_islam]

Even I am petrified in that situation!

Originally Posted by Socialite

Looking for a qualifying option. There's an immediate viceral response a then a calmed down reasonable reaction. So my discomfort is momentary. Now... If that same Muslim is chanting words to Allah, wearing sunglasses and having intense whisper sessions with 5 other Muslim men all seated together, I'm as petrified as a turkey in November.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Given the context of the incident, the poll does not fit. He was not bothered by "muslims" on a plane.



Also, just for the record as this has nothing to do with the poll but here is his explanation as to why he said that

"They take something totally out of context," Williams said Thursday night, adding that his point was that Americans must come to grips with their prejudices.

"I have always thought of journalism, in a way, as a priesthood. you honor it you protect it," he said, before criticizing his former employer. "These people don't have ay sense of righteousness, of what's right here. They're self righteous."

Williams said NPR wanted to get rid of him because of his contributions to Fox News.
"I don't fit in their box," he said "I'm an unpredictable black liberal."
Ailes, in making his announcement, said, “Juan has been a staunch defender of liberal viewpoints since his tenure began at Fox News in 1997. He’s an honest man whose freedom of speech is protected by Fox News on a daily basis.”

Actually we have reason to believe NPR is afraid of Muslims. They received threats from CAIR and were worried what would happen to NPR. The threats were real by CAIR and NPR was very afraid and fired Juan. An act of appeasement.

CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad said in yesterday's statement that NPR "should address the fact that one of its news analysts seems to believe that all airline passengers who are perceived to be Muslim can legitimately be viewed as security threats."

"Such irresponsible and inflammatory comments would not be tolerated if they targeted any other racial, ethnic or religious minority, and they should not pass without action by NPR," Awad said.

CAIR describes itself as a civil-rights group, but FBI evidence points to its origin as a front group for the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Justice Department designated it an unindicted co-conspirator in the largest terror-finance case in U.S. history.

The CAIR statement yesterday paraphrased Awad claiming "media commentators who launch rhetorical attacks on Islam and Muslims normally do not suffer the professional consequences of those who similarly target other racial, ethnic or religious groups."

CAIR noted it recently announced the launch of a department devoted to addressing "the alarming rise of Islamophobic sentiment in American society."

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Question for 500 points. How do Muslims deal with people they disagree with???

[RandyWayne]

I voted yes, but should clarify that I am not afraid of the overt obvious Muslim should he board. The people I am nervous about are those who look middle eastern but dressed in pure western garb (jeans and dress shirts). In other words, trying to NOT look too Muslim. None of the 9-11 attackers, to my knowledge, were wearing turbans or looking like outright royal Sheiks.

[berkeley]

I have never been on a plane with anyone in muslim garb. Most muslim men I have seen do not look like a sheikh. I have been on a very looooong bus ride with a woman in muslim garb. I have seen muslim women in the mall. One time a muslim woman and her child were leaving a food court and the child dropped a doll. I picked it up and gave it to the mother. I didn't freak out or think the doll had a bomb on the inside of it. I have seen a school of muslim women in the Sam's Club. Guess they like Texas... There is a mosque-looking building that is not completely finished behind the Muslim center in McAllen, Tx. So close to the border... I was suspicious about that. It's just a weird location. But, then again, there's a synagogue in McAllen for mexican jews.

[Ferd]

boy would I be in trouble if I did! LOL! I work with lots of muslims. I work daily with some very fine people who are muslims.

I do say that Islam has a problem that no other religion has in that there is an undercurrent of violence that has let to many thouands of adhearants to find nothing wrong with war in the name of thier god.

no other faith feels that way today... in the year of our Lord 2010.

[Walks_in_islam]

Sometimes they argue. Sometimes they resort to violence and lash out. Sometimes they ignore people they do not agree with. Sometimes they assemble data and prove that they are right. Sometimes they assemble data and realize they were after all wrong.

Just like Christians or Jews or athiests or name it........

Originally Posted by coadie

Actually we have reason to believe NPR is afraid of Muslims. They received threats from CAIR and were worried what would happen to NPR. The threats were real by CAIR and NPR was very afraid and fired Juan. An act of appeasement.


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Question for 500 points. How do Muslims deal with people they disagree with???

[Light]

I would afraid if I got on a plane with Coadi. It's the right wing who we should be afraid of!! Ha

[Walks_in_islam]

hm. What about shorts and sleeveless shirts? Here's the deal. This may shock or concern you BUT unlike some who claim so I really do fly all the time and dress (actually admitting this while realizing this is hard to believe) for the weather. This discussion is otherwise funny to me. To example we took a vacation a couple weeks ago. To Abu Dhabi. SO, we boarded in Dammam, then again in Bahrain, then to Abu Dhabi (nice city-we could learn from their planners and copy whatever they do to keep the streets safe - recommended as one of the good spots in the world, managed to catch the F1 festivities) then back to Bahrain, then back to Dammam.

We didnt get groped or x-rayed with a TSA-porno machine either.

There were few to no NON-muslims on those flights. We however took off and landed quite safely with little thought that the flights might be or would be unsafe based on the religious views of fellow passengers (though the passengers from christian countries started hitting the booze about the time we left saudi airspace and you never know what can happen when boredom and booze is mixed). Ditto for Dammam to Dubai to Atlanta/return in the summer. Ditto Dammam to Abu Dhabi to Jakarta to Bali/return last spring. Ditto for Dammam to Doha to Houston (not recommeded, thats a long flight) last Dec/Jan. So we are Muslim but we dress in western clothes (exception wifey's hijab/head cover). BUT You would not know I was Muslim unless my wife was with me and it is often attempted to separate us at check-in counters, etc as the relationship does not click to the dimmer recuits in the airline industry.

Case in point is this. Hopefully this will not concern you when it is noted that when I wake up before a flight, I do not select what I will wear to "look" or "not look" Muslim because I spend zero / none / nil / zilch thought or resources wondering what my fellow passengers may or may not think of me based on what I am wearing and look like.

I actually and usually select what I will wear or bring to wear based on the weather at that time at the destination.

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I voted yes, but should clarify that I am not afraid of the overt obvious Muslim should he board. The people I am nervous about are those who look middle eastern but dressed in pure western garb (jeans and dress shirts). In other words, trying to NOT look too Muslim. None of the 9-11 attackers, to my knowledge, were wearing turbans or looking like outright royal Sheiks.

[Sister Alvear]

Jesus is with us...but like Randy said if they try to act like Western it makes you wonder why they are on the plane...I detest what their religion teaches but their souls are very important. We need more brave missionaries trying to reach them with the true gospel.