Obama-Christian By Choice

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

He was first elected to public office in 1996, so instead of 20 years, he was told 10 years in advance to become a Christian to advance his political career. That makes about as much sense. lol

So it was around 20 years

We know, having read some accounts that part of it had to do with gaining street cred with his work as a community organizer among churches. It only makes sense, and he was advised by a pastor to pick church if he wanted to be truly effective.

And there's a second theory which Scheiber points to as well:
Obama, as the product of a racially-mixed marriage, in which the black father was almost entirely absent, had spent his whole life groping for an authentic identity. Wright offered Obama both the father and the identity he never had.
In fact, I'd guess it was a combination of both - but there's more, and here's where it gets interesting. Scheiber quotes a passage from David Mendell's Obama biography that is revealing. First about Wright:
Wright earned bachelor's and master's degrees in sacred music from Howard University and initially pursued a Ph.D. at the University of Chicago Divinity School before interrupting his studies to minister full-time. His intellectualism and black militancy put him at odds with some Baptist ministers around Chicago, with whom he often sparred publicly, and he finally accepted a position at Trinity. ...
So the aspect of black militancy, as we've seen it reflected in Wright's words and, as he's admitted, is based in James Cone's "black liberation theology". This was well known from the beginning. It is nothing new, but certainly something rarely talked about in the MSM. Very few, if any, news outlets bring this topic up even while Wright continually touts the connection with Cone's theology.

So Comes Black Liberation theology fit obama's political agenda.
http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?entry=8426

He didn't show up at Trinity as a 'worshipper'. As mentioned, he showed up there initially to gain street cred to help him with his job. But he also chose a church that most comfortably fit his political beliefs before he ever began his religious journey. And that church based its theology on black militancy.

Trinity is a black church that strongly supports homosexuality which is not common for black churches.

[scotty]

‘I believe there are many paths to the same place and that is a belief there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.’

Isn't this the same thing Oprah said ?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by scotty

‘I believe there are many paths to the same place and that is a belief there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.’

Isn't this the same thing Oprah said ?

Exactly.

Jesus said Ye must be born again. Obama supporters can't show us where he was ever born again or refers to it as a requirement for salvation.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

Exactly.

Jesus said Ye must be born again. Obama supporters can't show us where he was ever born again or refers to it as a requirement for salvation.

lol, newflash, people believe differently than you (thank goodness). Not everyone views your way as the only way to be a Christian.

I notice you haven't tried to argue that he said his mom was an atheist anymore? What's the matter, the truth hurts?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

lol, newflash, people believe differently than you (thank goodness). Not everyone views your way as the only way to be a Christian.
I notice you haven't tried to argue that he said his mom was an atheist anymore? What's the matter, the truth hurts?

Does the truth hurt?

Jesus said I am the way the Truth and the life. How many ways are there Twisp? I believe Jesus is the way. Like he told Nicodemus, Ye must be born again.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Twisp

lol, newflash, people believe differently than you (thank goodness). Not everyone views your way as the only way to be a Christian.

Don't matter what everyone believes. Does it ?

John 3:5
Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

[coadie]

"My father was from Kenya," he said, "and a lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn't practice Islam. Truth is he wasn't very religious. He met my mother. My mother was a Christian from Kansas, and they married and then divorced. I was raised by my mother. So, I've always been a Christian. The only connection I've had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father's side came from that country. But I've never practiced Islam."

"I've always been a christian"
Obama

My bible says you are not a Christian until you are born again.

She touted herself as an atheist, and it was something she'd read about and could argue," said Maxine Box, who was Dunham's best friend in high school. "She was always challenging and arguing and comparing. She was already thinking about things that the rest of us hadn't."

So Obama contradicts himself. If he was "always " a christian, then it was not a choice.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by scotty

Don't matter what everyone believes. Does it ?

John 3:5
Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

Amen. Twisp says different standards for the Royal family.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by scotty

Don't matter what everyone believes. Does it ?

John 3:5
Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

According to his thinking, he views himself a Christian. Who are we to say differently?

Originally Posted by coadie

Amen. Twisp says different standards for the Royal family.

Different people have different standards. What he views as being a Christian might be different than what you believe.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

lol, newflash, people believe differently than you (thank goodness). Not everyone views your way as the only way to be a Christian.

I notice you haven't tried to argue that he said his mom was an atheist anymore? What's the matter, the truth hurts?

I will let his book answer you.

In his 2006 book The Audacity of Hope Obama wrote, "I was not raised in a religious household... My mother's own experiences... only reinforced this inherited skepticism. Her memories of the Christians who populated her youth were not fond ones... And yet for all her professed secularism, my mother was in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I've ever known

Well twispt. Do you say his book is wrong? secular humanism is atheism.

Obama is famous for having multiple stories that do not match.