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Old 09-20-2010, 12:52 PM
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Re: Obama deleted "Creator" from Declaration of In

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And it appears your accusation is a judgemental one. Are you accusing some believers of being stone throwing pharisees?
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:53 PM
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Re: Obama deleted "Creator" from Declaration of In

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Wow!!

How do you define Christian?

Is social justice advocacy the new measure of goodness?
Sounds like you're still stuck. Hit your head a few times and see if you get unstuck.

Now answer the q: Are you suggesting he's Muslim, distorted Christian or an Atheist? (A Muslim wouldn't mind referring to Allah as Creator smart guy)
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:58 PM
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Re: Obama deleted "Creator" from Declaration of In

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Sounds like you're still stuck. Hit your head a few times and see if you get unstuck.

Now answer the q: Are you suggesting he's Muslim, distorted Christian or an Atheist? (A Muslim wouldn't mind referring to Allah as Creator smart guy)
And a Muslim would have no problem visiting a mosque 5 times a day to bow towards Mecca...or at least do it in the White House...I've never heard about him doing this.

Also it's the duty of every Muslim to visit Mecca at least once...has Obama done that? I never heard anything
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Old 09-20-2010, 01:22 PM
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And a Muslim would have no problem visiting a mosque 5 times a day to bow towards Mecca...or at least do it in the White House...I've never heard about him doing this.

Also it's the duty of every Muslim to visit Mecca at least once...has Obama done that? I never heard anything
Backslid Muslim?
He does get a daily devotional on his Blackberry. None of the disciples did.
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Old 09-20-2010, 01:33 PM
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Re: Obama deleted "Creator" from Declaration of In

Here is Obama's god... pick one
Now this isn't to say that Obama doesn't have a god that he worships. He most certainly does. That god is Government and his scripture is the Federal Register, his cathedral the Capitol Building and his communion a bill signing ceremony.
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Obama's god is government. His Christ is Saul Alinsky. His Bible is "Rules for Radicals." His congregation is shrinking. ...
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Old 09-20-2010, 01:44 PM
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Here is Obama's god... pick one
Now this isn't to say that Obama doesn't have a god that he worships. He most certainly does. That god is Government and his scripture is the Federal Register, his cathedral the Capitol Building and his communion a bill signing ceremony.
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Obama's god is government. His Christ is Saul Alinsky. His Bible is "Rules for Radicals." His congregation is shrinking. ...
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Narcissus or Narkissos (Greek: Νάρκισσος), possibly derived from ναρκη (narke) meaning "sleep, numbness," in Greek mythology was a hunter from the territory of Thespiae in Boeotia who was renowned for his beauty. He was exceptionally proud, in that he disdained those who loved him. As divine punishment he fell in love with his own reflection in a pool, not realizing it was merely an image, and he wasted away to death, not being able to leave the beauty of his own reflection.


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Addressing a large crowd behind a podium Feb. 24 with a Nation of Islam Saviours' Day 2008 sign, Farrakhan proclaims,

"You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change, and that is why Barack has captured the youth. And he has involved young people in a political process that they didn't care anything about. That's a sign. When the Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and the Messiah is absolutely speaking."
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Trumpet Newsmagazine was founded by the church's senior pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., as a church newsletter. Now it's a nationally distributed lifestyle magazine aimed at socially conscious African-Americans. The magazine gave Farrakhan its Lifetime Achievement "Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. Trumpeter" Award for those who work to "save the lives of Africans on the continent and in the Diaspora."
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:21 PM
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Media Matters chooses to mock those who noticed, rather than deal with the awkward question of exactly why the President of the United States would balk at noting that our rights come from our Creator, not from the goodwill of the government. That sort of question is to be deflected rather than pondered. That's why Soros pays them, after all.
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:44 PM
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He is a Koran quoting muslim prayer sound loving person , who confers closely with and had as a co writer of his books, the unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers then he sat under a racist preacher for 22 years Rev Wright.He loves socialism and marxism and quotes both.And you still dont know what he is ? Only the blind deaf dont realize what this guy is.
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:06 PM
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Sounds like you're still stuck. Hit your head a few times and see if you get unstuck.
Now answer the q: Are you suggesting he's Muslim, distorted Christian or an Atheist? (A Muslim wouldn't mind referring to Allah as Creator smart guy)
You have this insultative side to you.

You also don't understand the Muslim religion. All the children born of a Muslim male are Muslim from birth.

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The Prophet Muhammad said, "No babe is born but upon Fitra (as a Muslim). It is his parents who make him a Jew or a Christian or a Polytheist." (Sahih Muslim, Book 033, Number 6426)
So that places it in your court or Obama's court to tell us at what time he renounced the religion of his fathers.

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The Prophet (PBUH) reported that Allah said, "I created my servants in the right religion but devils made them go astray". The Prophet (PBUH) also said, "Each child is born in a state of "Fitrah", then his parents make him a Jew, Christian or a Zoroastrian, the way an animal gives birth to a normal offspring. Have you noticed any that were born mutilated?" (Collected by Al-Bukhaaree and Muslim).
Summary. Mohammad speaks for Muslims.

Now Jesus says I must be born again. So I am not one of the redeemed until I meet his definition of One of His.

No one seems to know that Obama has ever renounced the religion of his birth.

I can't find where he ever claimed to be born again.
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:11 PM
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Re: Obama deleted "Creator" from Declaration of In

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You have this insultative side to you.

You also don't understand the Muslim religion. All the children born of a Muslim male are Muslim from birth.



So that places it in your court or Obama's court to tell us at what time he renounced the religion of his fathers.



Summary. Mohammad speaks for Muslims.

Now Jesus says I must be born again. So I am not one of the redeemed until I meet his definition of One of His.

No one seems to know that Obama has ever renounced the religion of his birth.

I can't find where he ever claimed to be born again.
So He's a Muslim that believes in God, yet you find it newsworthy that the word "Creator" is mysteriously absent from his speech? Get your story straight...
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