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Old 09-02-2010, 09:59 AM
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I have a problem with this. It's not the government's job to tell me what sort of dress code I should be adhering to. I am *particularly* against people of a particular sect telling me how I should dress when I visit the public streets of their town. Suppose this was a Muslim town and all women were told to wear burqas? I bet that would go over real well.

Just to state my bias: I'm an ardent believer in separation of church and state, and the people who control Kiryas Joel have been trying to blur the line for decades. The Supreme Court held in 1994 that funding a school district that was specifically set up to the boundaries of a religious neighborhood was an unconstitutional aid to religion (Board of Education of Kiryas Joel Village School District v. Grumet). There have been other cases on other subjects.

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According to the ACLU, the signs pass constitutional muster because they were put up by a private organization and there is no sanction for not adhering to the stated dress code. However, if the town council had put up the signs, that would be a different story.
You are wrong. The gubment requires food handlers to wear gloves and hairnets. That is separation. welders must wear gloves, helmets and eye protection. Tell us what to wear. Courts don't allow halter tops, undershirts, and sandals. We can write pages of rules and laws for what people wear.
If the law says certain pilots can't wear glasses, if you need them and must wear them, they can not let you fly.

Now that you are clear that there can be enforcible laws, have anything else?
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:06 AM
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"signs at the village’s entrance – in both English and Spanish – asking outsiders to cover their legs and arms, use appropriate language and maintain gender separation in public.
“It’s a way of respect,” said one resident."


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/08/...s-accordingly/
These Jews have a right to have their opinion. I have a lot of Jewish friends. The amnish also have rights and viewpoints. Rarely do I see someone mocking an Amish that actually understands what they think and why they do what they do. I was in an Amish community last weekend and saw tractors and for the first time didn't notice any had cabs and a/c.
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Old 09-02-2010, 01:33 PM
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Re: "Holiness" goes Mainstream in USA

If people don't like it, just don't go to that community....
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Old 09-02-2010, 02:23 PM
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Really, it is a non-issue. They aren't going to enforce it, so you are not required to abide by it. It is just going to be another sign up on the side of the road.
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Old 09-02-2010, 02:35 PM
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Really, it is a non-issue. They aren't going to enforce it, so you are not required to abide by it. It is just going to be another sign up on the side of the road.
Totally agree. I mean, one of my husband's friends has a sign on his driveway that says "No ladies wearing pants, skirts, or shorts allowed on property - remove them before entering!" but no one abides by it. LOL!!!
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Old 09-02-2010, 02:54 PM
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Re: "Holiness" goes Mainstream in USA

This is ridiculous... but blue laws are ridiculous as well. I remember stopping in a Wal-Mart in South Carolina on a Sunday two or three years ago and the entire store was roped off (I think everything but the food items).

Frankly, I was offended that I could not buy anything and will make every effort to not end up even driving through that town or county or whatever it was again. I can't imagine what you have to do if you have a flat tire or something in that backwards place on a Sunday.
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Old 09-02-2010, 02:58 PM
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This is ridiculous... but blue laws are ridiculous as well. I remember stopping in a Wal-Mart in South Carolina on a Sunday two or three years ago and the entire store was roped off (I think everything but the food items).

Frankly, I was offended that I could not buy anything and will make every effort to not end up even driving through that town or county or whatever it was again. I can't imagine what you have to do if you have a flat tire or something in that backwards place on a Sunday.
I've never heard of such a thing - blue laws? Gonna have to look that up.
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Old 09-02-2010, 03:05 PM
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I've never heard of such a thing - blue laws? Gonna have to look that up.
Looks like the county finally repealed it, here is an article about them repealing it... http://www.foxcarolina.com/news/21234290/detail.html

Also, here is some general information on Blue Laws... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_law
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Old 09-02-2010, 03:07 PM
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Looks like the county finally repealed it, here is an article about them repealing it... http://www.foxcarolina.com/news/21234290/detail.html

Also, here is some general information on Blue Laws... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_law
Blue laws can be a trip! There is one still on the books her that says you cant tie an elephant to a hitching post!
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Old 09-02-2010, 03:17 PM
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Blue laws can be a trip! There is one still on the books her that says you cant tie an elephant to a hitching post!
Blue Laws usually have a religious origin (not sure what happened to the Separation of church and state there. lol)... it would be interesting to know the story behind the elephant and the hitching post!
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