What does it mean to blaspheme the Holy Spirit

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by keith4him

To call a Work of the Holy spirit, a work of the Devil!

If this be the case, then many many of our Apostolic Brethern are guilty when talking about those in the mainstream churches who speak in tongues, i.e. The AOG, the COGICs, the independents, etc.

Anyone who has been around long enough has heard the retort when the question is asked about those speaking in tongues in the mainstream, "Well the debbil (sic) can cause someone to speak in tongues..."

In fact, my best friend said this to me once, and he was the Youth Pastor at the time.

[Brother Price]

Originally Posted by keith4him

To call a Work of the Holy spirit, a work of the Devil!

Amen! That is why we should be careful what we call of the devil.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Any body care to give a definition of what blaspheming the Holy Spirit means.

It appears to be unforgivable, so it would be good to know it's definition.

This is not a trick question. Enquiring minds want to know.

I'll be back to see your replys later today..I gotta go out into the real world for a bit to make a living. Ya all pray for me.

I was gonna post this in reply to Keith on the other thread....but it mysteriously disappeared

Hermeneutically speaking what this tells is in the context is that attributing the works of the Holy Ghost to the devil is blasphemy. It does NOT tell us that is the ONLY way to blasphemy the Holy Ghost.

In fact Jesus says "speak a word against the Holy Ghost" and obviously what the Pharisees did falls into that catagory.

Blasphemy means to speak evil of....you can speak evil of the Son of man but to speak evil of the Holy Ghost is unforgivable

[freeatlast]

One source says
1. Applying a sacred name or claim to an unholy thing

2. Applying an unholy name or charge to a sacred thing.

I think possibly to many might be to cavalier in the things they speak.

[Arphaxad]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Any body care to give a definition of what blaspheming the Holy Spirit means.

It appears to be unforgivable, so it would be good to know it's definition.

This is not a trick question. Enquiring minds want to know.

I'll be back to see your replys later today..I gotta go out into the real world for a bit to make a living. Ya all pray for me.

I think what Mrs. Benny Hinn said qualifies!

[Michael The Disciple]

Here is the basis for it in the OT:

10: And the son of an Israelitish woman, whose father was an Egyptian, went out among the children of Israel: and this son of the Israelitish woman and a man of Israel strove together in the camp;
11: And the Israelitish woman's son blasphemed the name of the LORD, and cursed. And they brought him unto Moses: (and his mother's name was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan
12: And they put him in ward, that the mind of the LORD might be shewed them.
13: And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
14: Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
15: And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, Whosoever curseth his God shall bear his sin.
16: And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.

[Truly Blessed]

If we stick with what Jesus said instead of twisting what He said because we seek to justify what some who refuse to accept what the Spirit is doing in the lives of Trinitarians, say about them, the answer is very clear.

Jesus said in Mark 3:23-30, "So Jesus called them and spoke to them in parables: "How can Satan drive out Satan? If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come. In fact, no one can enter a strong man's house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man. Then he can rob his house. I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.He said this because they were saying, "He has an evil spirit."

I fear for those who so easily set what Jesus said aside. IMO there is a definite parallel between what teachers of the law were saying about Jesus driving out demons by Beelzebub, and what many apostolics say about Spirit filled Pentecostals today. Take note to the reason why Jesus said what He did to them; "...because they were saying, "He has an evil spirit".

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

If we stick with what Jesus said instead of twisting what He said because we seek to justify what some who refuse to accept what the Spirit is doing in the lives of Trinitarians, say about them, the answer is very clear.

Jesus said in Mark 3:23-30, "So Jesus called them and spoke to them in parables: "How can Satan drive out Satan? If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come. In fact, no one can enter a strong man's house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man. Then he can rob his house. I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.He said this because they were saying, "He has an evil spirit."

I fear for those who so easily set what Jesus said aside. IMO there is a definite parallel between what teachers of the law were saying about Jesus driving out demons by Beelzebub, and what many apostolics say about Spirit filled Pentecostals today. Take note to the reason why Jesus said what He did to them; "...because they were saying, "He has an evil spirit".

That's what I am looking for TB.

I have heard it taught that, when we so calousloy disregard the work of the holy spirit in the life of a believer we blaspheme.

Henceforth the stern warnings not judge or we will be judged.

Romans 2:1 Therefore thou art INEXCUSABLE, O man, whosoever thou art that judges.

I think, possibly blashemy is a broader subject than we comprehend.

We speak of kids who make silly videos, that they have blasphemed.

Paul claimed he did it (blasphemed) but he did it ignorantly, in unbelief.

He was henceforth forgiven.

Paul's blasphemy, when did it occur, what is he refering to?

Could it have been when he stood by and held the coats of those he cosented to stone Stephen to death. A man filled with the Holy Ghost that Paul deemed UNHOLY.

Paul's confession of blasphemy was linked to his being injurious, and a persecutor 1 Tim 1:12-13

I think there is a link between blaspheming the Holy Spirit and judging a holy thing ( a child of God ) unholy, thru our visual ideas of what a Christian looks like in our American culture.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

If we stick with what Jesus said instead of twisting what He said because we seek to justify what some who refuse to accept what the Spirit is doing in the lives of Trinitarians, say about them, the answer is very clear.

Jesus said in Mark 3:23-30, "So Jesus called them and spoke to them in parables: "How can Satan drive out Satan? If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come. In fact, no one can enter a strong man's house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man. Then he can rob his house. I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.He said this because they were saying, "He has an evil spirit."

I fear for those who so easily set what Jesus said aside. IMO there is a definite parallel between what teachers of the law were saying about Jesus driving out demons by Beelzebub, and what many apostolics say about Spirit filled Pentecostals today. Take note to the reason why Jesus said what He did to them; "...because they were saying, "He has an evil spirit".

i am curious what translation did you read this from?

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

That's what I am looking for TB.

I have heard it taught that, when we so calousloy disregard the work of the holy spirit in the life of a believer we blaspheme.

Henceforth the stern warnings not judge or we will be judged.

Romans 2:1 Therefore thou art INEXCUSABLE, O man, whosoever thou art that judges.

I think, possibly blashemy is a broader subject than we comprehend.

We speak of kids who make silly videos, that they have blasphemed.

Paul claimed he did it (blasphemed) but he did it ignorantly, in unbelief.

He was henceforth forgiven.

Paul's blasphemy, when did it occur, what is he refering to?

Could it have been when he stood by and held the coats of those he cosented to stone Stephen to death. A man filled with the Holy Ghost that Paul deemed UNHOLY.

Paul's confession of blasphemy was linked to his being injurious, and a persecutor 1 Tim 1:12-13

I think there is a link between blaspheming the Holy Spirit and judging a holy thing ( a child of God ) unholy, thru our visual ideas of what a Christian looks like in our American culture.

Oh now, you went and did it, good point!