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Old 06-28-2010, 08:57 PM
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Yes... Will God judge YOU faithful or not to his Covenant? Either you are in or out by your works?

Can I answer a question with a question.....First, do YOU believe this? Second, IF this is true, that God will determine our eternity placement, as in heaven or hell, based on our works, what scripture(s) define the line of works that are sufficient for heaven and works that doom one to hell?
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Can I answer a question with a question.....First, do YOU believe this? Second, IF this is true, that God will determine our eternity placement, as in heaven or hell, based on our works, what scripture(s) define the line of works that are sufficient for heaven and works that doom one to hell?
You better believe I believe this. I will start with John 15 ref Mark 12:29-34 or so to start. It's called the Law of Christ which is the same base as the Sinai Covenant!

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"Eschatological Judgment" is one of "the most common theological discussions?"

Not hardly.
oh really... Salvation and endtime judgment is not one of the most common discussions? Faith vs Works and law... Your joking right?

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Yes... Will God judge YOU faithful or not to his Covenant? Either you are in or out by your works?
There's a two sided coin here.

Revelation 20:12, states that "the Last Judgment" would be "... according to their works."

And yet,

Revelation 17:8 says that those who will be "saved" at the time of the end will have had their names written in the Lamb's Book of Life from the "foundation of the world."

In a sense, your "eschatological judgment" has already happened. It's results have been known from "the foundation of the world."
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You better believe I believe this. I will start with John 15 ref Mark 12:29-34 or so to start. It's called the Law of Christ which is the same base as the Sinai Covenant!

Then I'd like to know what the scriptural line is for works that qualify for heaven and works that don't.
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You better believe I believe this. I will start with John 15 ref Mark 12:29-34 or so to start. It's called the Law of Christ which is the same base as the Sinai Covenant!
What constitutes "abiding in Him?" Once saved, always saved?
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oh really... Salvation and endtime judgment is not one of the most common discussions? Faith vs Works and law... Your joking right?
LOL. Your terminology was "uncommon" and thus required clarification.
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LOL. Your terminology was "uncommon" and thus required clarification.
not to scholars like "nowofworks" he is a expert. To anyone who does study on this that is a common phrase.
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What constitutes "abiding in Him?" Once saved, always saved?
What does JEsus say?
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Then I'd like to know what the scriptural line is for works that qualify for heaven and works that don't.
I asked a question. You should have a general response. You should know the basic ground work and foundation of this argument. What works? I just pointed out that which it all hangs. In reality you don't need to know specifics. It's a principle argument. Will our eternal destiny be based on our deeds at the last judgment and our end justification as result of deeds.
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