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Old 06-24-2010, 10:28 AM
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Bi-locate????

Man, I wanna do that. He was in Ireland and Georgia at the same time. Just think of all the work I could get done AND post on AFF constantly!!!

I love this stuff!!! I always thought UPCers were crazy until I discovered the charismatic world. They make UPCers seem like boring, fundamental orthodox candle-lighters.
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Old 06-24-2010, 10:51 AM
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Bi-locate????

Man, I wanna do that. He was in Ireland and Georgia at the same time. Just think of all the work I could get done AND post on AFF constantly!!!

I love this stuff!!! I always thought UPCers were crazy until I discovered the charismatic world. They make UPCers seem like boring, fundamental orthodox candle-lighters.
bi-locate?

I didn't watch the video.

I'm not sure how the term "bi-locate" is used.

However, there are stories of some of the "saints" who have appeared in more than one place at the same time. This is usually explained as that the person was not literally in two locations at once but God granted someone a vision of that person who came to comfort or encourage and did not physically leave the place where they were.
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I saw this video before and didn't get past the first 10 seconds.

I watched it again. At first I laughed so hard. It was quite funny. Then it hit me at how sad this was. At how misguided he and these people are. It was a deep sadness.

Just a few quotations for you from the video:

"...Fat friar tuck bar angels, yanking on your arms..."

"oink oink or oy oy" was his version of glossalalia I suppose.

He talked about some guy named Jeff's bi-location story, being in 2 places at once. Claims he showed up in Ireland when he was also in Georgia.

He talked about a time when he could levitate, and said "give it all to me."

Told the congregants to grab their neighbors arm and to find their vein! He begins tapping his forearm like a drug dealer, and tells them to shoot up, "jesus on the main line, tell him what you want."

He claims in one city that diamonds were showing up all over the floor and that when they'd pick them up and they'd disappeared.


He claims to have experienced a literal supernatural indoor rain that soaked them.

"get whacked, stay whacked and don't go back."

"Toking the ghost."

"Jehovawanna"

They began pretending to toke and passing around fake grass. Telling the saints to pass it around. This church is as crazy as him.

He's either one or multiple of the following:

Mentally ill
A Charlatan
A Druggie
An Alcoholic
Possessed himself
A fraud

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Old 06-24-2010, 11:21 AM
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I saw this video before and didn't get past the first 10 seconds.

I watched it again. At first I laughed so hard. It was quite funny. Then it hit me at how sad this was. At how misguided he and these people are. It was a deep sadness.

Just a few quotations for you from the video:

"...Fat friar tuck bar angels, yanking on your arms..."

"oink oink or oy oy" was his version of glossalalia I suppose.

He talked about some guy named Jeff's bi-location story, being in 2 places at once. Claims he showed up in Ireland when he was also in Georgia.

He talked about a time when he could levitate, and said "give it all to me."

Told the congregants to grab their neighbors arm and to find their vain! He begins tapping his forearm like a drug dealer, and tells them to shoot up, "jesus on the main line, tell him what you want."

He claims in one city that diamonds were showing up all over the floor and that when they'd pick them up and they'd disappeared.


He claims to have experienced a literal supernatural indoor rain that soaked them.

"get whacked, stay whacked and don't go back."

"Toking the ghost."

"Jehovawanna"

They began pretending to toke and passing around fake grass. Telling the saints to pass it around. This church is as crazy as him.

He's either one or multiple of the following:

Mentally ill
A Charlatan
A Druggie
An Alcoholic
Possessed himself
A fraud

I didn't watch the whole thing...survived only until the bi-location hooey, which I seriously wanna be able to do!!

But you're right...how horribly sad this is. I'm not sure which is sadder, the kook doing the kooky stuff, or the kooks supporting the kooky stuff. The only way the Peter Popoffs are able to survive is because people show up and pay him. Mutually sad.
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So, is this kind of thing a matter of opinion? Is it personal taste? Are some opinions more valid than others?
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So, is this kind of thing a matter of opinion? Is it personal taste? Are some opinions more valid than others?

Mine always is!!
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Yeah, we really don't need a theological breakdown on this one to see that it's kooky. It's quite obvious. There's no point to it all, he's all over the map, and I sincerely do question if he may be a user. Like it's very possible he showed up to this high on something.

But if we wanted to take a theolgical route with it, we certainly could.
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Yeah, we really don't need a theological breakdown on this one to see that it's kooky. It's quite obvious. There's no point to it all, he's all over the map, and I sincerely do question if he may be a user. Like it's very possible he showed up to this high on something.

But if we wanted to take a theolgical route with it, we certainly could.

I wouldn't be surprised and he wouldn't be the first.
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Yeah, we really don't need a theological breakdown on this one to see that it's kooky. It's quite obvious. There's no point to it all, he's all over the map, and I sincerely do question if he may be a user. Like it's very possible he showed up to this high on something.

But if we wanted to take a theolgical route with it, we certainly could.
Sure, maybe this one is extreme enough that almost everyone could agree. But there are others that, for example, some believers might think was kooky but you'd think was a perfectly normal expression of worship, or of a manifestation of the Holy Spirit.

But even this video proves that it would be virtually impossible to get complete agreement! The people in that man's congregation seemed to be fine with it. (Even there, I'm sure it wasn't unanimous. There had to be a lot of folks thinking to themselves "he has got to be kidding"! )
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