Can Someone be "Apostolic" and Deny Christ is God?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Sam

Well, Isaiah 9:6 says that the child who is born is the Son who is given and He's also the Mighty God and the Everlasting Father.

And the Holy Spirit is called "Christ in you" (Colossians 1:27); "the Spirit of Jesus Christ" (Philippians 1:19); "the Spirit of Jesus" (Acts 16:7); "the Spirit of the Lord" (2 Corinthians 3:17); and Jesus did say that He was the Comforter who was with them but would also be the Comforter in them (John 14:16-18)

So, isn't Jesus the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost?

In Essence, yes.

However, there is a certain separation that exists as well that is not adequately addressed by the song I quoted from my youth.

[pelathais]

Mike B. sums it up well, for a Canuck.

hmm... my attitude has suddenly deteriorated.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

"God is the Father,
God is the Son,
God is the Holy Ghost,
all Three are One,"

Is clearer to me.

What about... "the Son is not the Father and the Father is not the Son...?"

Still clear?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by pelathais

What about... "the Son is not the Father and the Father is not the Son...?"

Still clear?

I actually deleted the post you referred to because my thoughts started to contradict me.


The same God who created the world, robed Himself in flesh and walked on earth, died for our sins and was risen from the dead by the power of the God who created the world. The Spirit of God that resided in the flesh of the One who walked the earth in a fleshly body dwells in us today.

I believe this and this rests well with my conscience as being Biblical.

The only Name given to this Gentile to call on when refering to God is Jesus!

The Name of "Jesus" has roots that refer to, "God is The One that Saves," or simply, "God Saves."

[Dedicated Mind]

who voted yes and why? can someone explain?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Is what I said clear to you all?

If not, feel free to engage me.

Iron sharpens iron and if I am in error, show me.

I'm not so much concerned with being Apostolic as I am concerned with being Biblically sound in my doctrines and beliefs.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Is what I said clear to you all?

If not, feel free to engage me.

Iron sharpens iron and if I am in error, show me.

I'm not so much concerned with being Apostolic as I am concerned with being Biblically sound in my doctrines and beliefs.

It's clear to me JD. but don't think that you have to pander to the crowd. Stake a position that you feel is right - explore that and other ideas and adjust as needed. That's the best that anyone has ever done.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

who voted yes and why? can someone explain?

I voted Yes because I have seen some who I think call themselves Apostolic say that the man Jesus Christ was not God. Somewhere in the Debate Room, I think. Also, I can imagine it would not be that difficult to justify that view Biblically, including the Apostles' writings. Not necessarily correctly, but it can be done to someone's own satisfaction, just as many other doctrines can be and have been.

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Can someone be Apostolic and deny the Deity of Jesus Christ?

I voted that I don't know...

But the interesting part is that I believe Jesus is God, but I don't think anyone would call me Apostolic. But hey...finally something I can agree with you all about!

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by pelathais

It's clear to me JD. but don't think that you have to pander to the crowd. Stake a position that you feel is right - explore that and other ideas and adjust as needed. That's the best that anyone has ever done.

Well I've never and will never believed that God is a committee.

There is a separation between the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

I reference 1 Corinthinians 15:28 to emphasize the difference.


There's only One God and the only access we have to Him is through the blood and by the Name of Jesus.