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05-12-2010, 12:18 PM
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Re: Apostolic Minister/State Rep. voted for AZ bil
My understanding is that his dad was a pastor in El Salvador with the Assembly ... which makes this a little more interesting ....
The Assembly has a centralized church govt' ...
Was his dad placed to pastor a church in Arizona ... and helped by the Assembly to gain entry?
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05-12-2010, 12:21 PM
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Re: Apostolic Minister/State Rep. voted for AZ bil
Yes his dad is the pastor of an Apostolic Assembly church in Arizona.
Steve in addition to being a state rep ... serves as the Vice President of the Assemblies' Youth Division .... and the church's assistant pastor / youth pastor
http://www.apostolicassembly.org/min_youth.aspx
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05-12-2010, 12:27 PM
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Re: Apostolic Minister/State Rep. voted for AZ bil
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05-12-2010, 12:29 PM
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Re: Apostolic Minister/State Rep. voted for AZ bil
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I think the point about the pastor's hypocrisy is that many of his congregants are illegal aliens.
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That makes him hypocritical? How? What would be expected in order for it to not be hypocritical? For him to turn them all over to law enforcement? The bill in question isn't even asking for that kind of action. It's just giving law enforcement the right to check immigration status when a person is detained for ANOTHER lawful cause.
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05-12-2010, 12:31 PM
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Re: Apostolic Minister/State Rep. voted for AZ bil
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"Montenegro arrived in the U.S. from El Salvador when he was four. He says his family moved to Arizona legally. He believes that those who are here illegally should leave the state.
"I am saying if you here illegally, get in line, come in the right way."
Rep. Montenegro says the political atmosphere surrounding the issue has become so toxic he has actually received death threats for taking his position.
"I am not worried I am not here to be popular. Many Hispanic people are saying they are behind this bill," he says"
I am not for harsh, cruel tactics in dealing with illegal immigration. However, as a pastor, he has an obligation to encourage his constituency to obey the law.
He demonstrated courage in voting the way he did, no doubt knowing it would make him unpopular. It appears that other Hispanic lawmakers voted in a way that will retain their popularity. 
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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05-12-2010, 12:32 PM
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Re: Apostolic Minister/State Rep. voted for AZ bil
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I figured, as a Minister, and before reading the article that it had to do with crime.
The article bears that out. This is what it is for most people supporting the bill.
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"This bill has nothing to do with race or profiling. It has to do with the law. We are seeing a lot of crime here in Arizona because of the open borders that we have," says Montenegro.
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05-12-2010, 12:36 PM
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Re: Apostolic Minister/State Rep. voted for AZ bil
He represents the Litchfield Park area ... haha good luck getting re-elected. Have to pray he doesn't get killed for taking this stance. He says he's getting death threats, and I believe him since he represents that area.
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05-12-2010, 12:36 PM
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Re: Apostolic Minister/State Rep. voted for AZ bil
if caught kick them out and whatever company gives a job to illegal aliens should be penalized heavily. If he voted to give his state the authority to ACTUALLY FINALLY do something. Then GOOD FOR HIM!
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05-12-2010, 12:37 PM
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Re: Apostolic Minister/State Rep. voted for AZ bil
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He represents the Litchfield Park area ... haha good luck getting re-elected. Have to pray he doesn't get killed for taking this stance. He says he's getting death threats, and I believe him since he represents that area.
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Wouldn't be suprised! Typical and they talk about it's a moral issue. What a joke!
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05-12-2010, 12:43 PM
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Re: Apostolic Minister/State Rep. voted for AZ bil
What is most disappointing to me is that an Apostolic news organization would cast the minister in a negative light for acting on principle.
Romans 13 tells us what our obligations are in regard to being good citizens. Paul wrote the passage, and he was very familiar with being persecuted by governments--and yet he still encouraged people to try to be law-abiding, peaceful citizens. He didn't encourage anarchy or revolution--he encouraged submission.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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