Them that sin rebuke before all

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Sounds to me like the bible says it applies to anyone that is an elder.

In context, it seems that way. Although the chapter starts out 'rebuke not an elder'.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by jfrog

meh, i was hoping they didn't realize it was in the bible so I could actually get opinions on it without people just saying I agree cause its bible

You really thought most people wouldn't know that was in the Bible??

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Are you me?

No Timmy. You're one of a kind.

Besides I'm pretty sure one person can't possess both a Timmy nature and a jfrog nature at the same time.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by mfblume

1 Timothy 5:20 KJV Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

Anyone who agrees with the bible would agree with this. We might not agree as to HOW IT IS DONE, but it is Bible.

You're the only one saying, "Heck yeah, let's do it" so I must ask.....have you ever rebuked, before all, those that have sinned?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

You really thought most people wouldn't know that was in the Bible??

Yes

But let's get to the issue. Why does it seem to me like everyone is against elders being openly rebuked? Does anyone else share that perception?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

In context, it seems that way. Although the chapter starts out 'rebuke not an elder'.

But then it gives this as an exception doesn't it?

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

You really thought most people wouldn't know that was in the Bible??

I'd be with you, AQP, any semi- or part-time bible-thumper would know this is from the bible. Heck, even *I* knew it!

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by notofworks

I'd be with you, AQP, any semi- or part-time bible-thumper would know this is from the bible. Heck, even *I* knew it!

lol, I guess the biblical guidelines on rebuking elders never interested me much?

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Yes

But let's get to the issue. Why does it seem to me like everyone is against elders being openly rebuked? Does anyone else share that perception?

Originally Posted by jfrog

But then it gives this as an exception doesn't it?

You're right, that's an interesting question. I can't say that I've EVER heard of an elder being rebuked before all. Well, not in the proper way, anyway. I've certainly heard preachers bash other preachers publicly, but I've never heard of it being done through the proper channels, as described in this passage. (not saying it's never been done, I've just never seen it)

People seem to stress the 'touch not mine anointed' concept, more than proper rebuke when warranted. OR, if a preacher has truly sinned, it's handled behind closed doors.

I've never heard this verse used to apply to elders, either. The "them" has always seemed to apply to "saints".

[notofworks]

....and "sinned" how? For getting angry in a traffic jam? Sorry, I'm gonna get publicly rebuked every Sunday. After yesterday, it's gonna take up 30 minutes of the service this Sunday!