I am not sure there is anything dishonest about it. I am sure that in our district it is no secret that we have been advertising.
Truthfully, it would be a lot easier for the UPC to kick us out than cause a stir in our church by trying to convince the church members that we need to get out.
Remember, we are in a period of transition. There has to be some preachers who push the issue in the correct way so that the positive effects of TV can be demonstrated.
In my opinion, preachers who are leading the way towards TV are leaders in our movement. Not cowards.
Well, I cant speak for everyone. I cant even speak for myself, as i dont hold a licenes even though I preach in, attend only UPCI churches.
But let me say, I am a 5th Gen Pentecostal. my home church was part of the merger. Both my family and my ministerial heritage are UPCI going back to before there was a UPCI, so asking me to leave the UPCI would be like asking me to leave my own home.
I know there are a lot of men who do hold licenes and feel the same as I do. It is the only home they know and leaving the UPCI sperates them from the only fellowship they have ever known.
doctrinally it is a dangerous world out there. you leave your tether and you are set loose in a sea of shifting doctrine and it is hard to be stable without being in fellowship with like minded men.
this is key. I know a lot of guys that left for good reason but over time, more things changed than they intended. Ive even had a guy tell me NOT to leave no matter what....for this reason. he left and wishes it could be un-done. sad.
so, what you end up with is smart guys that by and large agree with the fundimental doctrine of the UPCI and agree with the stated goals and mission statement, but have a few ancillary issues with some of the "rules"
and folk want them to burn down the only home they have ever known because they dont agree with a couple of minor house rules.
I dont have a problem with these guys staying. In fact i prefer it. I would rather the org be changed from with in.
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
But hey aren't there other oneness folks out there besides UPCI, who believe similar to the UPCI ?
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
Well, I cant speak for everyone. I cant even speak for myself, as i dont hold a licenes even though I preach in, attend only UPCI churches.
But let me say, I am a 5th Gen Pentecostal. my home church was part of the merger. Both my family and my ministerial heritage are UPCI going back to before there was a UPCI, so asking me to leave the UPCI would be like asking me to leave my own home.
I know there are a lot of men who do hold licenes and feel the same as I do. It is the only home they know and leaving the UPCI sperates them from the only fellowship they have ever known.
doctrinally it is a dangerous world out there. you leave your tether and you are set loose in a sea of shifting doctrine and it is hard to be stable without being in fellowship with like minded men.
this is key. I know a lot of guys that left for good reason but over time, more things changed than they intended. Ive even had a guy tell me NOT to leave no matter what....for this reason. he left and wishes it could be un-done. sad.
so, what you end up with is smart guys that by and large agree with the fundimental doctrine of the UPCI and agree with the stated goals and mission statement, but have a few ancillary issues with some of the "rules"
and folk want them to burn down the only home they have ever known because they dont agree with a couple of minor house rules.
I dont have a problem with these guys staying. In fact i prefer it. I would rather the org be changed from with in.
Well, I cant speak for everyone. I cant even speak for myself, as i dont hold a licenes even though I preach in, attend only UPCI churches.
But let me say, I am a 5th Gen Pentecostal. my home church was part of the merger. Both my family and my ministerial heritage are UPCI going back to before there was a UPCI, so asking me to leave the UPCI would be like asking me to leave my own home.
I know there are a lot of men who do hold licenes and feel the same as I do. It is the only home they know and leaving the UPCI sperates them from the only fellowship they have ever known.
doctrinally it is a dangerous world out there. you leave your tether and you are set loose in a sea of shifting doctrine and it is hard to be stable without being in fellowship with like minded men.
this is key. I know a lot of guys that left for good reason but over time, more things changed than they intended. Ive even had a guy tell me NOT to leave no matter what....for this reason. he left and wishes it could be un-done. sad.
so, what you end up with is smart guys that by and large agree with the fundimental doctrine of the UPCI and agree with the stated goals and mission statement, but have a few ancillary issues with some of the "rules"
and folk want them to burn down the only home they have ever known because they dont agree with a couple of minor house rules.
I dont have a problem with these guys staying. In fact i prefer it. I would rather the org be changed from with in.
When i run for Supt, I want you to be my speech writer. Well spoken!