It's Time To Get Over It

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Hot Coffee Ms.

It’s time to get over it and pray through this situation. Aren’t you people adults? So stop acting like a child who wants sympathy, and a pat on the back, and you want someone to tell you that it’s ok. You know it‘s not ok not to have a church. You say you’ve been hurt by your pastor, and pulled out of the UPC, or all church attendance anywhere. You hate all pastors everywhere because they are all liars you say. And now you can’t trust anyone else to pastor you, so find a church that teaches truth. All Pastors are not cut from the same mold. You need a church and you need a pastor. So stop being so childish and grow up. We can’t hold grudges folks. It’s time to get over whatever the problem is. After all, aren’t you people adults? You sound so childish by starting all these silly threads demeaning the UPC and all Pastors too. It’s time to get over it and Get In A Church Somewhere.

It’s OK with most people if your boss dictates what we should wear. I know plenty who dress in uniform in order to hold a job, but He’s paying us to do this. That makes all the difference. It’s ok if our Boss expects us to report to work on time, and follow some form of standard. And we tolerate it if he gets on our case occasionally, after all he pays our salary, and that makes all difference in the world. We are willing to do lots of things we may not like in order to hold a job, but you will not allow our Pastor to lead you to Jesus.

Coop watching: "The Hot Coffee Ms. Comedy Hour" She's Funny!

Laughter is a medicine; I feel the healing all ready!

[nathan_slatter]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Some are victims of their own hurt and project that to others. They like being hurt it is their badge if honor and an excuse for not doing what they know they should do.

While I admit hurt was a catalyst for my life as of now -- I'm no longer hurt. I have pondered the actions of the past and chalk it up to misplace, misuse, and misinterpreted love and care. It was nothing less.

I honestly believe that those who hurt, do so accidentally without a motive of hurt. In that case, I can only believe that they truly felt that they were doing what is right in their own eyes.

My hurt has waned to wisdom. I thank God everyday that he kept me through the hurt and, in fact, I thank Him for where the struggle by fire brought me. As I'm writing this, I realize something. I should be thankful to those who did the hurting -- I wouldn't be where God has brought me to without them.

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Some are victims of their own hurt and project that to others. They like being hurt it is their badge if honor and an excuse for not doing what they know they should do.

So because of those "some" are we to lose focus from the root of the pain that Trouvere talks about?

[Theresa]

and some people just need an excuse for their lack of committment...

to a pastor or a church....

The bible is very clear about church attendance, blame the preacher all you want but you should be actively looking for a new church home if you cant submit to the one you currently have or had.....To just not go, well, that's on you and it's wrong.......it's far more than a pastor asking his saints to not wear a moustache or short sleeves on the platform.

We all draw our lines in the sand at different points, who cares if some are more conservative than others? Is it REALLY that big of a deal?? You are a grown person, if you dont agree, the pastor isnt going to whip you or hang you from the highest tree at sunset, you just probably wont be on the platform. So?? And if the pastor is some kind of tyrant, well find another one...but get off your butt and LOOK for one!. Stop sitting back and making excuses.

Wonder how long someone would stay employed at McDonalds if they refused to wear that USELESS visor?

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by nathan_slatter

While I admit hurt was a catalyst for my life as of now -- I'm no longer hurt. I have pondered the actions of the past and chalk it up to misplace, misuse, and misinterpreted love and care. It was nothing less.

I honestly believe that those who hurt, do so accidentally without a motive of hurt. In that case, I can only believe that they truly felt that they were doing what is right in their own eyes.

My hurt has waned to wisdom. I thank God everyday that he kept me through the hurt and, in fact, I thank Him for where the struggle by fire brought me. As I'm writing this, I realize something. I should be thankful to those who did the hurting -- I wouldn't be where God has brought me to without them.

I disagree to a certain extent. Those that become right in their own eyes, Dictators I like to call them, DO NOT do things accidentally without a motive of hurt. They are ready and willing to write someone off as a swine that doesn't deserve the pearl. True forgiveness is unknown to them.

[nathan_slatter]

Originally Posted by Kutless

I disagree to a certain extent. Those that become right in their own eyes, Dictators I like to call them, DO NOT do things accidentally without a motive of hurt. They are ready and willing to write someone off as a swine that doesn't deserve the pearl. True forgiveness is unknown to them.

While I agree, I do not wish to chalk up every hurt that is done in the name of dictatorship. I can only speak what has happened in my life.

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by ILG

I think people can always get over it in some measure. What I don't like is people demanding that folks get over things on THEIR timetable because they don't want to hear about it.

you are right, about some people. But I've heard this anti-UPC song and dance from some regulars for 3 years...

there's no intention of getting on with their life - they just want to vent.

Others, in that same period of time have made choices to move on - and that's ok for them, it's what they chose to do...are they sitting back lamenting about it and bashing the organization they chose to leave? No they arent, they are getting on with their life b/c they made a choice they were comfortable with...

some folks just want attention and justification for inactivity.

[nathan_slatter]

Originally Posted by Theresa

and some people just need an excuse for their lack of committment...

to a pastor or a church....

The bible is very clear about church attendance, blame the preacher all you want but you should be actively looking for a new church home if you cant submit to the one you currently have or had.....To just not go, well, that's on you and it's wrong.......it's far more than a pastor asking his saints to not wear a moustache or short sleeves on the platform.

We all draw our lines in the sand at different points, who cares if some are more conservative than others? Is it REALLY that big of a deal?? You are a grown person, if you dont agree, the pastor isnt going to whip you or hang you from the highest tree at sunset, you just probably wont be on the platform. So?? And if the pastor is some kind of tyrant, well find another one...but get off your butt and LOOK for one!. Stop sitting back and making excuses.

Wonder how long someone would stay employed at McDonalds if they refused to wear that USELESS visor?

I would ask:

What dictates "church"? What is a "pastor"? What is "ministry"?

[Steve Epley]

I heard song years ago this thread reminds me of:
'I've been walked on and stepped on so many times and I hate to admit it but the last footprint was mine."

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by Theresa

and some people just need an excuse for their lack of committment...

to a pastor or a church....

The bible is very clear about church attendance, blame the preacher all you want but you should be actively looking for a new church home if you cant submit to the one you currently have or had.....To just not go, well, that's on you and it's wrong.......it's far more than a pastor asking his saints to not wear a moustache or short sleeves on the platform.

We all draw our lines in the sand at different points, who cares if some are more conservative than others? Is it REALLY that big of a deal?? You are a grown person, if you dont agree, the pastor isnt going to whip you or hang you from the highest tree at sunset, you just probably wont be on the platform. So?? And if the pastor is some kind of tyrant, well find another one...but get off your butt and LOOK for one!. Stop sitting back and making excuses.

Wonder how long someone would stay employed at McDonalds if they refused to wear that USELESS visor?

Mcdonalds isn't a very good example IMO. Even they continuosly change the uniform. They even allow shorts on hot days. IMagine that. To me they want there uniform to look as current as possible. JMO