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Old 01-29-2010, 09:29 PM
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Re: Obama says, if the GOP would just quit saying

Speaking of the blame game,

Am reading a book about the current financial meltdown. Two different ones actually.

They lay the blame for this meltdown squarely on.......


Willy Jeff Clinton's shoulders.

That is because, they claim, he disolved the law that made investment banks and depository banks from merging.

Then his HUD chairperson forced the banks to give lending to everyone, regardless of the ability to repay.

The books are:

House of card by william Cohan

and

A colossal failure of common sense by Lawrence Mcdonald
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Old 01-30-2010, 06:40 AM
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Re: Obama says, if the GOP would just quit saying

the fact of the matter is the repubs have been totally shut out on any dicussions and decisions and they complained loudly, then they get blamed for the decisions the dems make without them ! not once has obama said thats my fault .
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Old 01-30-2010, 10:07 AM
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Re: Obama says, if the GOP would just quit saying

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the fact of the matter is the repubs have been totally shut out on any dicussions and decisions and they complained loudly, then they get blamed for the decisions the dems make without them ! not once has obama said thats my fault .
And he is not going to either!

This year is going to be the blame game as the dems are in the saving seats mode! They are scared too death that the RNC is going to swamp them.

One Dem said a bloodbath is in their future.

Look for everything to be blamed on GWB and the RNC.

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Old 01-30-2010, 10:54 AM
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Re: Obama says, if the GOP would just quit saying

Kind of like when Hillary Clinton said,
"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic, We should stand up and say, we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration"

When the Dems do it,it is the right thing to do, when the Reps do it, it is obstructionism. Oh I get it.
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Old 01-30-2010, 02:24 PM
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Re: Obama says, if the GOP would just quit saying

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Speaking of the blame game,

Am reading a book about the current financial meltdown. Two different ones actually.

They lay the blame for this meltdown squarely on.......


Willy Jeff Clinton's shoulders.

That is because, they claim, he disolved the law that made investment banks and depository banks from merging.

Then his HUD chairperson forced the banks to give lending to everyone, regardless of the ability to repay.

The books are:

House of card by william Cohan

and

A colossal failure of common sense by Lawrence Mcdonald
Michael Savage brought that up.

I like Jerry Doyle, he really gets into that kind of stuff.
http://www.jerrydoyle.com/

Not only that stuff about investment bankers etc etc but under Clinton they came up with the stuff forcing banks to give out risky home loans.

Then the current Dems also contributed through fanny man and freddy mac.

But the Dems are not all to blame. The Republicans like to deregulate everything including the stock market so there were some problems there too
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Re: Obama says, if the GOP would just quit saying

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Some things Bush must take the blame for.

President Obama took the blame on not presenting healthcare reform to the American puiblic in a clear manner.

The President is not always dodging the bullet and passing the blame.

To say he never takes repsonsibility would be inaccurate.
Bush can take the blame, but it's pure smokescreen to keep pointing fingers at Bush or the Republicans when things are not going your way. Ok Bush was already "tried" in the Media. The Dems platform was "blame bush"...

Ok Bush GOT blamed for what he should be blamed for...it's time to move on and get rid of the scapegoat for every democratic failure.

BTW if you really listen or read what Obama does is passive agressive...He disarms you with "and I take blame for that", but then he does the "But what about THEM???"

So he makes it sound like "Hey, Im not perfect but THEY are the ones that really screwed this up for us...Hey, Im not perfectm, but Im trying to fix THEIR mess and if Im not doing a good enough job you can blame them. If I am doing a great job, you can thank me"
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Old 01-31-2010, 02:02 AM
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Re: Obama says, if the GOP would just quit saying

Having listened to a good bit of it, I remember why I and a surprising number of my conservative friends voted for him. This what we heard on the campaign trail and were attracted to. Clear, clean, concise points and plans. A different way of doing politics. He has gotten a little sidetracked during his first year in office, but I hope and pray he becomes the president America voted for.
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Re: Obama says, if the GOP would just quit saying

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Having listened to a good bit of it, I remember why I and a surprising number of my conservative friends voted for him. This what we heard on the campaign trail and were attracted to. Clear, clean, concise points and plans. A different way of doing politics. He has gotten a little sidetracked during his first year in office, but I hope and pray he becomes the president America voted for.
sorry t the sidetracking was the campaign words ,the real thing is what is being exposed now , leftist ,socialist, moonbat theology.we know whats best for the hoi poloi not them.so we will just force it on them and eventually they will realize big brother was right .
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:32 AM
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sorry t the sidetracking was the campaign words ,the real thing is what is being exposed now , leftist ,socialist, moonbat theology.we know whats best for the hoi poloi not them.so we will just force it on them and eventually they will realize big brother was right .
No, it's not. Republican's are trying their best to stay relevant, and they know outlandish claims like that will get them headlines. Much like this session, talking points won't get you far.

The fact is that Obama was/is a relatively young candidate that resonated with the majority of the younger crowd. He made a lot of campaign promises and seemed to understand us a lot more than McCain. That crowd responded by voting in record numbers.

He might not have lived up to all of his promises thus far, but we'll continue to let him try. Honestly, barring a major incident, we'll probably let him try to for another term as well. We are tired of the way politicians work, and he gives us the best chance for that to change.

This Q & A session displayed him getting back to that, hopefully, and is very exciting.
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Re: Obama says, if the GOP would just quit saying

he hasnt lived up to ANY of his promises, btw im dem, but i know reality when i see it, there will be a bloodbath this fall and he is doomed, period ! the shear hipocrisy of this guy is not to be believed, the latest when he claimed the deficit and jobs were most important ,yet he added trillions to it then complained when the repubs dont participate, when they were totally shut out of the debate on this obamacare. it was totally his and shoved through to its present point where it will die an ignomious death. he thinks the people of this country are totally unimportant to this debate when the vast majority of voters want nothing to do with it and it will continue to be proven .the scott brown election was just the beginning .
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