When Fashion Controls the Church....

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

You might be suprized some of these fashions might very well come from Goodwill and consignment stores.

But what about the whole "appearance of evil" thing

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by OGIA

rr, in my limited time back in the "church" (4 years now), I've seen the same thing you are talking about. I just wonder why you harp on and seem to limit it to the conservative churches? Anywho..........

If you've seen the same thing it's not just a West Coast thing.. then...

I agree that there are far too many who use church as an occassion to dress to "the nines". There's nothing inherently wrong with that until it becomes an issue of the flesh. I have to be aware of it myself, being blessed with things in the clothing realm that others may not have.

But, brother, why do you focus so much on the conservative churches? Do you think "they" are exempt from error? YOU, like my wife (who is not in truth and WILL NOT even visit my church), seem to think that because a particular church holds to a stricter standard of dress that ALL are perfect. That's silly.

Why don't you mention the ones who DO dress modestly, because these are the ones who have it "right" (pun intended). My best friend and his wife are getting more and more conservative the longer they are in church (he prayed through a week before I did). He is now licensed locally. He and his wife are a class act when it comes to standards. You NEVER see her wearing anything flashy, yet she looks like she could met the President (or more importantly, the LORD!) at anytime of the day. Yeah, she "dresses down" sometimes, but she still looks very classy.

Why don't you talk about those people? Why do you think everyone is perfect or has this standards thing down, exhibiting humility and grace?

Why not address it? It starts from the Top down.. not from the bottom up...

Why? Just for argument's sake, I think. Quit grouping everyone in the same class. If you want to start dressing more casual in your church (if you haven't), then PLEASE, PLEASE......go ahead! Don't try to justify it by others' faults.

It just seems like you're trying to justify a desire for wanting to change to be more casual by attacking what the ones who don't live the conservative life to YOUR standards (no pun intended) do. Just because they get caught up in the flesh doesn't mean that there's not a group who don't.

How about more friendlier?? Maybe more accepting of Folks?? are maybe just more like Jesus was???


You could be right.. But I haven't attended more liberal churches so I wouldn't know... I have attended some awesome conservative churches that felt good...

For example a Good Conservative church we attended was Thad's Church... People were really friendly & had a good spirit..... and there wasn't a "I dress Better than you Spirit"...

[OGIA]

Originally Posted by revrandy

You could be right.. But I haven't attended more liberal churches so I wouldn't know... I have attended some awesome conservative churches that felt good...

For example a Good Conservative church we attended was Thad's Church... People were really friendly & had a good spirit..... and there wasn't a "I dress Better than you Spirit"...

So, you agree that "dressing to the nines" for the flesh is just as wrong in Benny Hinn's church as it is in Bro. Epley's church?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

And K&G.

Yep and the Alley.

I like my wife to dress nice and not ashamed of it. We hardly go anywhere that someone does not compliment her on her clothing (unsaved folks). Our nieces look nice and the majority of their clothes come from Goodwill or discount store. I don't wear bib overalls to church or flannel shirts however someone would be welcome wearing them. I try to look nice I represent a King and I am His messenger I don't want to embarrass Him. What is "to the nines"??????????????????????? Some folk are naturally sloppy and have not hardly any care about their appearance it is a natural thing with them and has nothing to do with moderation. Being sloppy and unkempt might be homely but is not humbleness. My thoughts.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

You might be suprized some of these fashions might very well come from Goodwill and consignment stores.

I buy at Goodwill all the time. You can get some excellent deals there. I buy some very nice quality clothing for very cheap. To me, this thread isn't about quality clothing. It is about the spirit of the letter. Re: Dressing to the nines.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by OGIA

So, you agree that "dressing to the nines" for the flesh is just as wrong in Benny Hinn's church as it is in Bro. Epley's church?

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Yep and the Alley.

I like my wife to dress nice and not ashamed of it. We hardly go anywhere that someone does not compliment her on her clothing (unsaved folks). Our nieces look nice and the majority of their clothes come from Goodwill or discount store. I don't wear bib overalls to church or flannel shirts however someone would be welcome wearing them. I try to look nice I represent a King and I am His messenger I don't want to embarrass Him. What is "to the nines"??????????????????????? Some folk are naturally sloppy and have not hardly any care about their appearance it is a natural thing with them and has nothing to do with moderation. Being sloppy and unkempt might be homely but is not humbleness. My thoughts.

Dressing Well is not the Problem... but the attitude & spirit behind the dress...

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by ILG

I buy at Goodwill all the time. You can get some excellent deals there. I buy some very nice quality clothing for very cheap. To me, this thread isn't about quality clothing. It is about the spirit of the letter. Re: Dressing to the nines.

BINGO!!! We have a WINNER!!

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Yep and the Alley.

I like my wife to dress nice and not ashamed of it. We hardly go anywhere that someone does not compliment her on her clothing (unsaved folks). Our nieces look nice and the majority of their clothes come from Goodwill or discount store. I don't wear bib overalls to church or flannel shirts however someone would be welcome wearing them. I try to look nice I represent a King and I am His messenger I don't want to embarrass Him. What is "to the nines"??????????????????????? Some folk are naturally sloppy and have not hardly any care about their appearance it is a natural thing with them and has nothing to do with moderation. Being sloppy and unkempt might be homely but is not humbleness. My thoughts.

I am casual, but don't think I am sloppy and unkempt. I guess it is the attitude behind it more than anything else. So many people who are "dressy" or "fancy" as I like to think of them, are always obsessed with their appearance. Can't sit in the grass, it might stain my dress. Can't pick up the baby, their hands might be dirty, oops...can't do that, it might mess up my beautiful hair-do.

[revrandy]

I and My wife do our best to dress well... but we also make sure that we are friendly to everybody too..

[OGIA]

Originally Posted by ILG

I buy at Goodwill all the time. You can get some excellent deals there. I buy some very nice quality clothing for very cheap. To me, this thread isn't about quality clothing. It is about the spirit of the letter. Re: Dressing to the nines.

Originally Posted by revrandy

BINGO!!! We have a WINNER!!

But why do persist in focusing ONLY on the conservative churches? You seem to think they should "know better"? Is this attitude in any of the congregation you pastor?