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Old 10-26-2009, 08:47 AM
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Because you know I believe the Bible. I'll take being a Christian over being a conservative any day. You honestly can't say that mowing them down with ".50 cals" would be the "Christian" thing to do....



Who would Jesus "mow down" with a .50 cal?
Conservatives are against abortion.

You have no room to talk. The left call the unborn baby a parasite. The baby has no right to be where it is and the mom has all rights to remove the invader.

If people push the Democrat party, they have no business even saying what they think about "illegals" until they repent of abortion.

Peopple with moral values really need to consider what their testimony is by how they defend the most corrupt ordeal ever pushed on mankind.

David was a warrior. Obama is a ditherer.

Abortion is done to prevent the expansion of "unwanted weeds" according to Margaret Sanger the founder of Planned Parenthood.

We really don't take moral directives seriously from the Abortion Party.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:52 AM
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Re: Your answer to illegal immigration.

ENFORCE the laws of this nation!
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:10 AM
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Conservatives are against abortion.
On this point, I believe conservatives are right. Abortion is indeed a taking of a life. I do see an issue with enforcement of abortion prohibitions... but the carefree attitude held by the left on this is unacceptable.

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You have no room to talk. The left call the unborn baby a parasite. The baby has no right to be where it is and the mom has all rights to remove the invader.
Not necessarily true. The left's position is that as tragic as it may be, legally a woman has the right over her own body... not me, not you, and not the state. But this creates a moral delima for the left. Our only alternative would be to make pregnant women wards of the state, and force women to give birth or be charged. But then the question arises what shall they be charged with? Most of us would agree to murder... but no court in the land has ever or will ever convict a woman for murdering her child through abortion.

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If people push the Democrat party, they have no business even saying what they think about "illegals" until they repent of abortion.
Coadie, people don't always embrace the entire platform of a party. And people have a right to speak their mind on different issues... because they often break from their party of choice on a given issue. Besides, I was speaking as a Christian, not a Democrat. Not everyone's a party hack like you Coadie. lol

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Peopple with moral values really need to consider what their testimony is by how they defend the most corrupt ordeal ever pushed on mankind.
I can see your point here.
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David was a warrior. Obama is a ditherer.
David was an adulterer and a murderer. David only showed sorrow for his sins after being caught... kind of like Bill Clinton. lol

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Abortion is done to prevent the expansion of "unwanted weeds" according to Margaret Sanger the founder of Planned Parenthood.
Coadie... you're obsessed with this aren't you?

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We really don't take moral directives seriously from the Abortion Party.
I can see that.... and I can agree to a large extent. However, I was speaking from the Bible, not the Abortion Party.

God bless and keep you.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:13 AM
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ENFORCE the laws of this nation!
Once there were laws that prohibited women from voting. Some laws aren't just or just don't work. That means those laws have to be revised or changed. I think immigration laws aren't entirely just and need some work.

I think phony patriots say, "Our country right or wrong!" A true patriot says, "Our country, when right to be kept right! When wrong, to be made right!"

Just a few thoughts.

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Old 10-26-2009, 09:21 AM
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I would like to see a policy where we enforce our laws but make coming to this country easier on families and those who are looking for work. There are many poor people coming here that just want a better life.

I am a conservative, BTW.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:26 AM
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On this point, I believe conservatives are right. Abortion is indeed a taking of a life. I do see an issue with enforcement of abortion prohibitions... but the carefree attitude held by the left on this is unacceptable.



Not necessarily true. The left's position is that as tragic as it may be, legally a woman has the right over her own body... not me, not you, and not the state. But this creates a moral delima for the left. Our only alternative would be to make pregnant women wards of the state, and force women to give birth or be charged. But then the question arises what shall they be charged with? Most of us would agree to murder... but no court in the land has ever or will ever convict a woman for murdering her child through abortion.



Coadie, people don't always embrace the entire platform of a party. And people have a right to speak their mind on different issues... because they often break from their party of choice on a given issue. Besides, I was speaking as a Christian, not a Democrat. Not everyone's a party hack like you Coadie. lol



I can see your point here.


David was an adulterer and a murderer. David only showed sorrow for his sins after being caught... kind of like Bill Clinton. lol



Coadie... you're obsessed with this aren't you?


I can see that.... and I can agree to a large extent. However, I was speaking from the Bible, not the Abortion Party.

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like you call out insullts when people stand up against evil.

Your logic is at zero also. The unborn child has no choice. Your irrational claim is not about choice, it is about power. The mom can hve the baby killed more easily before the baby is large.


Moral people have real issues being identified with abortion... Lying and calling it "choice" or "it isn't a baby" tells us how deviant minds work.

The definition of fetus is offspring. Non medical people claim the definition is "unborn product of conception"

The Abortion party makes up it's self justifications.


Your David story is also false. David cried to God, Against Thee and Thee only have I sinned"

David did not do an Obama and back peddle as he does because the Media called it out.

Liberal repentence

Throw them under the Bus.

Biblical repentence comes with deep sorrow.

Moral People can't be associated with the Abortion Party


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Old 10-26-2009, 09:26 AM
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I would like to see a policy where we enforce our laws but make coming to this country easier on families and those who are looking for work. There are many poor people coming here that just want a better life.

I am a conservative, BTW.
I agree DeltaG.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:28 AM
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like you call out insullts when people stand up against evil.

Your logic is at zero also. The unborn child has no choice. Your irrational claim is not about choice, it is about power. The mom can hve the baby killed more easily before the baby is large.


Moral people have real issues being identified with abortion... Lying and calling it "choice" or "it isn't a baby" tells us how deviant minds work.

The definition of fetus is offspring. Non medical people claim the definition is "unborn product of conception"

The Abortion party makes up it's self justifications.


Your David story is also false. David cried to God, Against Thee and Thee only have I sinned"

David did not do an Obama and back peddle as he does because the Media called it out.

Liberal repentence

Throw them under the Bus.

Biblical repentence comes with deep sorrow.

Moral People can't be associated with the Abortion Party


Coadie, we agree on abortion. I just have questions regarding how to enforce abortion prohibitions. That's all.

Now strop trying to hijack this thread. Put your big boy pants on and stick to the subject of immigration or start an abortion thread and post there.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:30 AM
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I would like to see a policy where we enforce our laws but make coming to this country easier on families and those who are looking for work. There are many poor people coming here that just want a better life.

I am a conservative, BTW.
When I teach home bible studies, The Philipinos that waited, spent money and came here legally have real issues with those that can't pay the price.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:32 AM
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When I teach home bible studies, The Philipinos that waited, spent money and came here legally have real issues with those that can't pay the price.
I'm sure they do. But I also know of immigrants who waited, paid money, and still think our immigration laws need reform. They have family and loved ones who they'd love to have immigrate to the United States who can't afford it.
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