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Old 09-22-2009, 11:52 AM
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Well, at least you admitted it.

Word to the wise: You will persuade no one by belittling something they see as sacred. You can help them understand the subject better by showing graciousness and respect to their idea, while explaining why you think the idea to be false. Anything else produces pure polemics.

Not belittling anything, not intentionally. If I am going to interact on a forum like this, you can expect a little sarcasm, and a little over the top attitude now and then from me. That is me. If you were sitting across from me having a beer...er I mean a um Coke, we would have a great conversation.

(Read this with a Ben Stein voice) Shall we each post a 100 word opening statement followed by 50 word responses, using only acceptable forms of argumentation. BORING!!
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:55 AM
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Well, at least you admitted it.

Word to the wise: You will persuade no one by belittling something they see as sacred. You can help them understand the subject better by showing graciousness and respect to their idea, while explaining why you think the idea to be false. Anything else produces pure polemics.
Wait? Are you talking to me?
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:57 AM
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Not belittling anything, not intentionally. If I am going to interact on a forum like this, you can expect a little sarcasm, and a little over the top attitude now and then from me. That is me. If you were sitting across from me having a beer...er I mean a um Coke, we would have a great conversation.

(Read this with a Ben Stein voice) Shall we each post a 100 word opening statement followed by 50 word responses, using only acceptable forms of argumentation. BORING!!
Funny. But that's not what I'm suggesting at all. Are you hearing me out? Are you identifying where I'm coming from? Is communication even happening right now?
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Or Kippa. All acceptable spelling.

Do you all just criticize words and miss the whole spirit and message of the post? Is anyone listening? *crickets*
I apologize if you thought I was criticizing, I was trying to be funny... apparently it did not work. I will try to be more careful...

I feel like you were the one who missed the spirit of what I was trying to say
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Funny. But that's not what I'm suggesting at all. Are you hearing me out? Are you identifying where I'm coming from? Is communication even happening right now?
What? Did you say something?

I would say your coming from the middle of the road, but you lean right when talking to me or NOW but left when talking to those who are the right end of the spectrum.

But you have to be careful because you could get hit from either direction being where you are.
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Old 09-22-2009, 12:01 PM
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There are certain people that are disrespectful and at times they can be the most post prolific so it seems that everyone is disrespectful.

However, some of us just don't care to converse with such people so we ignore threads when they post garbage and that reinforces the idea that everyone is disrespectful.
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The Show. That's the problem. Some are here for kicks and giggles. Others for healthy discussion, challenging debate and hearing/see different perspectives. It's not even as much the fact that you spit on Pentecostalism implicit of your ideas, it's the sickening, disgusting attitude.

Go eat your popcorn somewhere else.

Jeffrey, why the lashing out? Why so much anger? Who's hurt you? Come on, dude, you're pounding me, you're going after everyone who disagrees with you. What's the deal? KWSS does NOT spit on pentecostalism. Have you ever talked privately with him? Heard his story? Asked him questions one on one? I have. He's a good guy. He attends a UPC church but has difficulty with a few things.....just like YOU do. His doubts are deeper than yours, but why are your doubts better than his?

KWSS didn't deserve these angry words.
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:24 PM
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What? Did you say something?

I would say your coming from the middle of the road, but you lean right when talking to me or NOW but left when talking to those who are the right end of the spectrum.

But you have to be careful because you could get hit from either direction being where you are.
I'm very much not an Ultra Conservative, nor am I one who belittle the Pentecostal experience.

Ironically, I haven't really been "hit" in this forum yet. Far more bantering with those on the left than any criticism I've received from the right. Though, there really aren't two sides, as we all have different opinions about a multitude of topics.

I've said plenty in this thread. Apparently no one is listening.

People in this forum have families falling apart over these issues, great emotional turmoil, and some want to approach very serious subjects with triteness, insignificance and mocking. I urge to to be sensitive and respectful, not withholding your opinion, and not forcing yourself to be straigh-faced, but being sensitive. Clear enough?
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:26 PM
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Jeffrey, why the lashing out? Why so much anger? Who's hurt you? Come on, dude, you're pounding me, you're going after everyone who disagrees with you. What's the deal? KWSS does NOT spit on pentecostalism. Have you ever talked privately with him? Heard his story? Asked him questions one on one? I have. He's a good guy. He attends a UPC church but has difficulty with a few things.....just like YOU do. His doubts are deeper than yours, but why are your doubts better than his?

KWSS didn't deserve these angry words.
Was KWSS's name in that post?

Obviously, you don't care to consider my request, my point or what I'm trying my best to patiently ask you to consider. It's all a game. There are several like you. As Prag said, best thing to do... is to ignore. I enjoy interacting though, so it's difficult. But, we aren't gaining any ground.
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I'm very much not an Ultra Conservative, nor am I one who belittle the Pentecostal experience.

Ironically, I haven't really been "hit" in this forum yet. Far more bantering with those on the left than any criticism I've received from the right. Though, there really aren't two sides, as we all have different opinions about a multitude of topics.

I've said plenty in this thread. Apparently no one is listening.

People in this forum have families falling apart over these issues, great emotional turmoil, and some want to approach very serious subjects with triteness, insignificance and mocking. I urge to to be sensitive and respectful, not withholding your opinion, and not forcing yourself to be straigh-faced, but being sensitive. Clear enough?
Then you would be a good A of G or Foursquare guy?
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