Islam on the march in DC - Perspectives - Page 2

Falla39 · #11 09-22-2009, 10:08 AM

Did someone say we were no longer a Christian nation? Wonder where that con-
clusion came from! I certainly haven't heard the CHRISTIANS saying that! I believe
only someone who was something "else" would say that! Not being critical either.
If we are not following CHRIST, then WHO!!! Those that are Christ's KNOW HIS NAME!
HIS NAME IS JESUS! HE was/is the Anointed of the Father. JESUS CHRIST the same
yesterday and today and forever. Heb. 13:8.

SOUNWORTHY · #12 09-22-2009, 10:19 AM

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Be nice?

I don't know how to fly planes or set roadside bombs.
I am only going to observe, maybe snap a few pictures with my phone.

Maybe they can teach you how.

Walks_in_islam · #13 09-22-2009, 09:04 PM

From a political standpoint it would probably be expedient for the president to let this pass with little to no comment.

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and, according to my understanding, they have as much right to assemble and pray as Christians. I just wonder if our President might greet and encourage them when he might not do that for a Christian group. (just wondering, not criticizing)

SOUNWORTHY · #14 09-23-2009, 07:54 AM

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From a political standpoint it would probably be expedient for the president to let this pass with little to no comment.

For once I agree with you but don't get your hopes up I'll try not to let it happen again!!

MissBrattified · #15 09-23-2009, 09:39 AM

I'm not sure what to say...except...we'd best be careful about objecting to the religious freedoms of others in this country, unless we don't mind that being turned around on us when we decide to meet and pray.

"Allah" is the same "Jehovah" the Jews worship; would you object to Jews praying, and call it demonic?

Baron1710 · #16 09-23-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I'm not sure what to say...except...we'd best be careful about objecting to the religious freedoms of others in this country, unless we don't mind that being turned around on us when we decide to meet and pray.

"Allah" is the same "Jehovah" the Jews worship; would you object to Jews praying, and call it demonic?

Allah may be their name for God, but I take serious issue with the idea that Muslims worship the God of Scripture.

As for their freedom to practice it. Go ahead. Just don't blow anything up while you are here.

Esther · #17 09-23-2009, 10:34 AM

Someone mentioned at church yesterday that OB invited them to come and pray. Anyone know if there is any truth to that?

MissBrattified · #18 09-23-2009, 11:03 AM

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Allah may be their name for God, but I take serious issue with the idea that Muslims worship the God of Scripture.

Who is Allah? Doesn't that mean the "one true God?" Don't they worship the God of Abraham, the same as the Jews?

Granted, Muhammad is thrown into the mix, and I get all that nonsense...it's along the same lines as the Mormons who give credence to the Angel Macaroni.

But when they pray to Allah, I believe they are praying to the same Jehovah as the Jews...what are your reasons for believing otherwise?

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As for their freedom to practice it. Go ahead. Just don't blow anything up while you are here.

Sometimes Christians kick their own hineys by trying to deny religious freedoms to those who are in a false doctrine. They're not thinking it through enough to realize it's their own personal freedom they're essentially putting at risk.

Baron1710 · #19 09-23-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Who is Allah? Doesn't that mean the "one true God?" Don't they worship the God of Abraham, the same as the Jews?

Granted, Muhammad is thrown into the mix, and I get all that nonsense...it's along the same lines as the Mormons who give credence to the Angel Macaroni.

But when they pray to Allah, I believe they are praying to the same Jehovah as the Jews...what are your reasons for believing otherwise?

Sometimes Christians kick their own hineys by trying to deny religious freedoms to those who are in a false doctrine. They're not thinking it through enough to realize it's their own personal freedom they're essentially putting at risk.

What is the nature of the god of Muslims? It is not the same. If someone were to tell you they worship God yet their description was a three headed goat, who consumed rats for dinner you wouldn't say, "oh, they use the same word for God as I do therefore it must be the same God."

They also do not trace their worship of God back to Abraham, their ancestry yes, their religion was created by the child molester they call a prophet.

We have no argument about freedom of religion.

Pressing-On · #20 09-23-2009, 11:40 AM

Sura 29:46 “We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you; our God and your God is One, and to Him we do submit”

Sura 3:67 says that Abraham was the first Muslim. The Islamic view is that Judaism and Christianity are the ones with the flawed versions. They think we are correct on some essentials, but wrong on all the important details.

Dieu (French) and Gott (German) for God. The Arabic equivalent is Allah. Eloh-im is Hebrew for God and is the cognate of Allah. In Aramaic God is Allaha. Maltese is Arabic-based spoken, predominantly by Catholic people and interprets God is Alla. The Jews and Christians who speak Arabic use the word, routinely, to refer to God. The Copts, which are the Christians in Egypt, do not.

The big difference is that they do not believe that Jesus died on the cross. They believe God took him up himself. They do not believe that it was necessary for a price to be paid for our sins. They believe that we bear and pay the price for our own sins. They believe it is unjust for Jesus to have suffered and died for our sins. We believe that we do not have the ability to atone for our own sins and that God's grace is the only means of salvation (Eph 2:8)