Why do folks have a silly notion about being UPC only if licenced? - Page 2

rrford · #11 04-17-2007, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Coop, are you aware that there are some of the churches that are in the UPCI that are UPCI affiliated? In case you did not know that it only means that reguardless of what the Pastor does the district and general boards

can remove, select pastors for this assembly. There are alot out there that are not affiliated to the organization. Those can do whatever. But the Pastor may be asked to leave the organization it he does something out of bylaws.

The main thing is that in those unaffiliated ones the pastors act as if they are so they are tougher on the standards and such. IMO. I have been a few different UPCI churches over the past years, from state to state. Boils down to another way for the pastor and the organization to have a grip on the saints. The crazy thing is if the Pastor does what both boards want then that Pastor is pretty much set in place for a long time, unless he chooses to leave.

People could tell the pastor to keep the standards to himself, but with the seasoned saints

and people that have heard for years, "obey them that have rule over you..." will likely corner the newbies and try to "cult"urize them. I am not saying the UPCI is a cult, not even close to saying that, but how some of the people act about this stuff is cultish. Conform or else. I know of an instance where on a Sunday night service a lady the HG and three days later on Wednesday Sis. Seaoned Saints told her, "now you need to not cut your hair and wearing pants,shorts, etc. that is not appealing to God. And it is sin." That made the lady very confused and only held on for a couple months then she left, never saw her again. That is sick.

Ahh, another uninformed post about affiliation and non-affiliation.

A good bit of what you stated is incorrect.

rrford · #12 04-17-2007, 08:52 AM

Coop,

I would repsond to your thread starter but since I am UPC and you are not I can't talk to you. It's in the Manaul that I don't have to care for, or converse with, anyone that is not a card holder.

Brother Price · #13 04-17-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by COOPER

If you are only UPCI by holding a Licence: then folks can tell the Pastor to stick the rules and standards in his back pocket with his card.

This notion that one was never UPCI because they were never a card holder is stupid.

It really shows the worth of saints to Pastors.

Us and them card holders.

Welcome to the Good old boys club.

My what a godly spirit Cooper! Is this how you would react if Jesus were to tell you something to do, and you did not do it? Man, you are really going downhill fast, are you not?

#14 04-17-2007, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Price

My what a godly spirit Cooper! Is this how you would react if Jesus were to tell you something to do, and you did not do it? Man, you are really going downhill fast, are you not?

Yes, I remember reading in the bible where God ordained the organization of the UPC as his direct representative on earth.

Brother Price · #15 04-17-2007, 09:31 AM

Ha! But, God has a rather strong thought against those who would constantly attack the standards of righteousness established through His Word.

sola gratia · #16 04-17-2007, 09:35 AM

Righteousness by HIS word, not some stupid man made standard Brother Price

ILG · #17 04-17-2007, 09:37 AM

Coop,

The thought process is that the UPC is not a denomination. Churches are supposed to be sovereign and self-governing. That is probably less true today than it used to be. So, theoretically, the ministers are the only ones that are part of the organization and the people are members of their local assembly.