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Old 06-04-2009, 07:51 AM
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If I heard someone speak in another language I would accept that but all the repeated stuff dadadadada and lalalalalalalalala not buying it plus this can be learned so I really don't buy it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossolalia
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:34 AM
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Many take from context the scripture in Mark 16. Verses 14 -18 tell us the signs of those that believe as proof of tongues. Sure, I have HEARD of SOME of these things being done by Christians, yet I have never SEEN it. No, I don't go around looking for signs and wonders. Yet, I wonder why so many have the believer's sign of new tongues, and yet cannot heal other believers of cancer. If they get bit by a snake, they will get sick. Try drinking poison and tell me if that works out for you. All I see, or rather, HEAR is tongues. Where are the other signs. This passage tells me that ALL of these signs will not follow only a FEW that believe. So everyone who has tongues should also have these other signs. Just some more inconsistencies.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:03 PM
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Joe I think that portion of scripture was directed to the Apostoles look at what happened to peter in Acts when he was bitten by the snake....
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Act 28: 3-5:

3 And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand.

4 And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live.

5 And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm.
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Joe I think that portion of scripture was directed to the Apostoles look at what happened to peter in Acts when he was bitten by the snake....
I dunno: "And these signs shall follow them that believe . . ."
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Old 06-04-2009, 01:24 PM
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LOL had the wrong one..
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:09 PM
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i surely wouldnt question somones holy ghost that couldt put you on dangerous ground with the lord. the sign are for the church we see miralcles quite a bit at our church thank god.i would pick up a snake on purpose as neither did paul .. but have had a few in my hands getting them out of others way . was not excited about it either lol. not sure if i have ever drank any deadly thing but if i did it musta not hurt me lol. not gonna do it on purpose. if yall would pray and seek god and ask for a visitation of his spirit it might do way more than yalls study as it seems yall are just looking for a way to be different and you know way more than the leaders that you have inn place!i pray for you!
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PASTORRICK PER YOUR QOUTE

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surely wouldnt question somones holy ghost that couldt put you on dangerous ground with the lord
so how would you know someone has the holyghost if you do not hear them speak in tongues or do you believe that is the initial evidence..And if you believe in the initial evidence then you just questioned that persons holyghost cause you yourself have not heard them speak in tongues so deep down inside you are questioning that persons holyghost if you believe in the initial evidence of tongues...
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It is my opinion that the signs mentioned in Mark 16

exorcism or casting out devils
speaking with new tongues/languages
taking up serpents (protection)
protection from the results of drinking poison
healing the sick by the laying on of hands

refer to signs that follow or accompany the body of believers collectively.
In other words, over the course of history these signs have been seen among God's people.
It is my opinion that not all of these signs must follow each individual believer.

Didn't the Apostle Paul ask the question, "do all speak with tongues?"in a manner and in a context that expected an answer of "no"?

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Sam always has the best answers. If the evidence of God's endwelling comes from speaking in tongues, then I have it. I was "prayed through" at eleven. I'm 20 now and I have rarely spoken in tongues since, probably once more. I know for sure I have not in the past five years or so. I have prayed earnestly, not for tongues, just in prayer, and the tongues did not come. I will not fake them. Something has kept me this far in my walk. It sure has not been tongues. Each day I grow in the Lord through prayer and study. I thank God it is His Spirit that has kept me, regardless of how much I speak in an unknown tongue. I do not bash others' tongues experiences, but when you start pressuring me to do that when it just isn't there, I'm gonna bite you back or slip from your influence. Just look at my fruits compared to all those whose salvation depends on consistant tongues. Most of those who seak that super Holy Ghost experience are babes and they need a sign from God that he is really with them. The need proof that He is real, so they get a super charge to carry them to the nexy week. I need no sign, yet. By faith I walk and by faith I believe He is with me. If the Holy Ghost wants to use me to be a witness to someone, He will come upon me. It will not be for my own, selfish edification. I will be a vessel used in the miraculous to draw others to the saving grace in Christ.

Thank you, Sam. I believe I am not one who speaks in tongues.

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It is my opinion that the signs mentioned in Mark 16

exorcism or casting out devils
speaking with new tongues/languages
taking up serpents (protection)
protection from the results of drinking poison
healing the sick by the laying on of hands

refer to signs that follow or accompany the body of believers collectively.
In other words, over the course of history these signs have been seen among God's people.
It is my opinion that not all of these signs must follow each individual believer.

Didn't the Apostle Paul ask the question, "do all speak with tongues?"in a manner and in a context that expected an answer of "no"?
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