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03-30-2009, 12:19 PM
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Re: Baptism question for One-Steppers
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Then again there was that thief on the cross no water involved there that we know of..
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Oh the thief on the cross argument. He was under the same dispensation as king david.
I was buried with Him in baptism as Jesus was buried after the Crosss. The thief was talking to Jesus who had the authority to forgive sins. like the adulterous woman.
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03-30-2009, 12:22 PM
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Re: Baptism question for One-Steppers
Thats right Jesus has the power not the water...
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03-30-2009, 12:40 PM
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Re: Baptism question for One-Steppers
Has anyone every thought mabey back then when they baptised in water they really thought they were washing sins off of you? Something to ponder on..
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03-30-2009, 12:52 PM
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ponder this
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Has anyone every thought mabey back then when they baptised in water they really thought they were washing sins off of you? Something to ponder on..
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Acts 19
1And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
This passage supports baptism. Paul of course had an oral conversation with the LORD about what to do to be saved. The LORD told him who would tell him how to be saved. This looks like what Paul did and was told.
Paul is either correct here or he is wrong. This passage supports Acts 2:38 and many others.
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03-30-2009, 12:56 PM
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Re: Baptism question for One-Steppers
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Has anyone every thought mabey back then when they baptised in water they really thought they were washing sins off of you? Something to ponder on..
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I do not think that is what the Ethiopian Eunuch was thinking when he asked of Phillip: "Here is water, what hinders me from being baptised"?
Phillip established the enabling criteria by asking him a question.
AFTER the Eunuch answered by confirming that JESUS CHRIST is the SON of God....
they both went down into the water and Phillip baptised the Eunuch.
I do not believe that Phillip thought the water washed away sins.
I do not believe the Eunuch thought the water washed away sins.
I do believe they BOTH acknowledged that WATER was involved in their burial with the one who died for them.
1 John 5:8 invites us to consider the witness, to have understanding concerning: the spirit, the water, and the blood agreeing in one.
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03-30-2009, 01:20 PM
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Re: Baptism question for One-Steppers
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Do we even have any onesteppers on the fourm? At the closest to one I would say 2 steps like coadie
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You've got me, but I'm more of a half-stepper! 
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03-30-2009, 01:25 PM
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Re: Baptism question for One-Steppers
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What do you think this verse means?
Acts 22:16 (King James Version)
16And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Does this mean that your sins are not washed away, gone, remitted.... until baptism? If not, what does it mean? |
Why do you equate "washed away" with "remitted?"
Matthew 26:28
Romans 3:25
Hebrews 9:22
It's His blood that remits sins. Unless someone is being very careless, there is no shedding of blood at a baptism. And where there is no shedding of blood, there is no "remission."
Also we will notice that it is by having Paul "call on the name of the Lord" that the washing takes place, not baptism ( 1 Peter 3:21). 
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03-30-2009, 01:54 PM
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Re: Baptism question for One-Steppers
Every person coming to Christ ought to be anxious to be baptized as it signifies a change of allegience from self to that of the Lord Jesus Christ. A visible outward action on the part of the believer.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-30-2009, 01:59 PM
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Re: Baptism question for One-Steppers
I thought the tongues was the visiable outward action on the part of the believer...LOL
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03-30-2009, 02:00 PM
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Re: Baptism question for One-Steppers
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I thought the tongues was the visiable outward action on the part of the believer...LOL
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I certainly hope the tongues originate with the unction of the Holy Spirit!
Baptism is solely an action of the believer.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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