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Old 03-10-2009, 12:47 PM
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Just looking at them objectively, I think the RCC is in a better position than it has been for perhaps centuries to turn itself around. The infiltration into the American church, and the seeming acceptance of, pedophiles and other abusers was sickening and turned many Catholics away, myself included.

I was raised as a child to be Catholic but the whole thing gave me the heebie-jeebies and I never really understood why until I was an adult. At 11 years of age I pretty much made up my own mind about "religion" and such and it did not include the RCC. Something about effeminate priests and angry manish nuns just turned me sour. I stayed away and was finally kicked out of confirmation classes for having a "bad attitude" toward the angry feminazi nuns.
Well, what ever is about to collapse in Christianity, I sure how we are still around to pick up the pieces!
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Old 03-10-2009, 01:07 PM
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Re: The Coming Evangelical Collapse

I believe what the author is trying to point out is there will be a complete rejection of evangelical christianity by the generation growing up today and a return to more orthodox or RCC roots by the rest.

The only other to survive may be the charasmatic-pentecostal churches who embrace less of politics and more of the spirit and the word of God.

I view this as a positive, really. Churches need a rejection of politics and a return to the power of the HG.

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Old 03-10-2009, 01:16 PM
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I believe what the author is trying to point out is there will be a complete rejection of evangelical christianity by the generation growing up today and a return to more orthodox or RCC roots by the rest.

The only other to survive may be the charasmatic-pentecostal churches who embrace less of politics and more of the spirit and the word of God.

I view this as a positive, really. Churches need a rejection of politics and a return to the power of the HG.

JMO
Then again, it could be that this guy really doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Old 03-10-2009, 01:23 PM
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Then again, it could be that this guy really doesn't know what he's talking about.
...which was my point. all the data indicate that the RCC is losing people, that mainline christianity is losing people.

The evangelicals are losing at a slower pace and that Pentecostals are staying even.

The only group that seems to be gaining are the non-denominational christians.


at the end of the day, those that are walking away are going to nothing.
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...which was my point. all the data indicate that the RCC is losing people, that mainline christianity is losing people.

The evangelicals are losing at a slower pace and that Pentecostals are staying even.

The only group that seems to be gaining are the non-denominational christians.


at the end of the day, those that are walking away are going to nothing.
nothing organizational....

....the man clubs are dying in irrelevance.
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I believe what the author is trying to point out is there will be a complete rejection of evangelical christianity by the generation growing up today and a return to more orthodox or RCC roots by the rest.

The only other to survive may be the charasmatic-pentecostal churches who embrace less of politics and more of the spirit and the word of God.

I view this as a positive, really. Churches need a rejection of politics and a return to the power of the HG.

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But shouldn't the "power of the HG" also be seen manifested in the realm of "politics?"
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I have never been one to rely on polls and surveys for prophesies.

I read in Exodus where pharoah increased rigor and difficulty and the number of Jews grew more rapiidly. In the cold churches, they will get fired up or shrivel.


I agree...
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