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Old 02-28-2009, 05:28 PM
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Re: <---Unity of the faith...--->

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I think the Lord is opening your understanding to some things, maybe for a particular reason, Sis. Barb. I pray for there to be more toleration of varying beliefs (standards) in the body of Christ and the UPCI in particular. Perhaps God is really doing a work to bring about a "unity of the Spirit". God bless you.
I join you in this prayer!
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I was thinking about this very Scripture earlier...

There are four UPCI churches in this city, and none of them agree on every thing.

Some are more strict than others...does that mean those which aren't are wrong?! Does it mean those attending or leading said churches are less Apostolic than the rest?!

We need to refocus, and understand who we are, and Whose we are.

It is His Church, and we are His Body.

Can the three fingers and thumb on my right hand say to the arthritic finger, "Because you don't look like us, or work as well as we do, we don't need you!!" Heaven forbid...!!

How dare I say to anyone in the Body of Christ, "I don't need you!!"
Thank you for this post!!!!!!! Amen!!!!!
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Re: <---Unity of the faith...--->

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I was thinking about this very Scripture earlier...

There are four UPCI churches in this city, and none of them agree on every thing.

Some are more strict than others...does that mean those which aren't are wrong?! Does it mean those attending or leading said churches are less Apostolic than the rest?!

We need to refocus, and understand who we are, and Whose we are.

It is His Church, and we are His Body.

Can the three fingers and thumb on my right hand say to the arthritic finger, "Because you don't look like us, or work as well as we do, we don't need you!!" Heaven forbid...!!

How dare I say to anyone in the Body of Christ, "I don't need you!!"
Aha! But! How do we define the 'body of Christ'? Therein lies part of the problem at least.
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I think the Lord is opening your understanding to some things, maybe for a particular reason, Sis. Barb. I pray for there to be more toleration of varying beliefs (standards) in the body of Christ and the UPCI in particular. Perhaps God is really doing a work to bring about a "unity of the Spirit". God bless you.
I would that the same 'unity' that existed at the time of the merger existed still today.
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I would that the same 'unity' that existed at the time of the merger existed still today.
I would like to see the unity that the early church in Jerusalem had in my lifetime visible in the ENTIRE body of Christ.

By this shall all men know that you are my disciples....our love one for another.
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I would like to see the unity that the early church in Jerusalem had in my lifetime visible in the ENTIRE body of Christ.

By this shall all men know that you are my disciples....our love one for another.
How do you think that love is evidenced? Expectations probably vary.

There is a sad lack of love in the church today. Attitudes - bad ones - abound.
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Ephesians 4:13 (KJV)
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

What is "the unity of the faith", and when will this happen?
This will be when the "progressives" within the UPC finally root out the last vestiges of their brethren who don't feel that they need to "progress" in a direction that is clearly not Scriptural.

That is, this will happen if the "progressives" don't get eaten alive by their "uncompromising" "ultra-con" brethren first.
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Aha! But! How do we define the 'body of Christ'? Therein lies part of the problem at least.
Agree...
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This will be when the "progressives" within the UPC finally root out the last vestiges of their brethren who don't feel that they need to "progress" in a direction that is clearly not Scriptural.

That is, this will happen if the "progressives" don't get eaten alive by their "uncompromising" "ultra-con" brethren first.
We need the whole spectrum of left to right IMO. Helps to keep something very important. Namely: BALANCE.

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Re: <---Unity of the faith...--->

We must agree on the foundations of our faith as we continue to come together to a more perfect understanding of the rest.

It looks like this:

10: Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. 1 Cor. 1:10

This is Gods will. Just because we are not there is no exuse. We must press on into all truth.

Yeshua said:

13: Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. John 14:13

The Spirit strives to guide men into all the truth.

The Devil has the Church believing truth is not important. That Gods ok with all our different views and opinions.

However the Apostle John saw it much differently.

3: For I rejoiced greatly, when the brethren came and testified of the truth that is in thee, even as thou walkest in the truth.
4: I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth
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Our faith should tell us there IS such a thing as coming into the full truth. And that its possible for it to happen to any spirit filled believer.
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