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Old 02-21-2009, 01:35 PM
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Here in Ky we just had the biggest natural disaster in our history. 700,000 people lost their power from the ice storm three weeks ago. There are STILL people without power as winter goes on.

I believe God is sovereign (in charge) of these things. Its a wake up call. His judgments are meant to get our attention.
Mmmmkay.
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Mmmmkay.

Timmy,

Do you believe that God does NOT judge nations and people today?

Was that only for the Old Testament?

If so, why would God treat them any different than us today? Is that just?

What are your thoughts on this?
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Old 02-21-2009, 04:48 PM
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Timmy,

Do you believe that God does NOT judge nations and people today?

Was that only for the Old Testament?

If so, why would God treat them any different than us today? Is that just?

What are your thoughts on this?
No, and I don't think He did any of those atrocities in the OT, either.
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Let look at the figures!

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I ask the question!

Do you believe that God is judging America?

If not currently, then do you believe that He is going to judge America?

If He is now judging, or will in the near future judge, what form do you think that judgment will take?

The Bible tells of judgment upon those who hurt an unborn child.

Exo 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

Amo 1:13 Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of the children of Ammon, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have ripped up the women with child of Gilead, that they might enlarge their border:

Again, do you feel God is going to soon, or is He already, judging America?

What do you think?
Those are disturbing stats... however the scriptures you cite really don't have anything to do with the abortion problem in America.

Unless, the "fathers" of those aborted babies somehow stepped up and declared that the "punishment" they require is a 1,000+ point in the Dow. And, I really don't remember anytime that the United States tried to annex any portion of the East Bank of the Jordan.
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Here in Ky we just had the biggest natural disaster in our history. 700,000 people lost their power from the ice storm three weeks ago. There are STILL people without power as winter goes on.

I believe God is sovereign (in charge) of these things. Its a wake up call. His judgments are meant to get our attention.
No offense dude, and I have family in KY, but being without electrical power is hardly a "Judgment of Biblical Proportions."
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No offense dude, and I have family in KY, but being without electrical power is hardly a "Judgment of Biblical Proportions."
It wouldn't have been "no thing" back in the day before electicity but now a days....another story unless you have a fireplace.
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Re: Is God judging America

What's the next plague for America? A coffee shortage?
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Let look at the figures!

Current Statistics on Abortion
46,023,191 Total Reported Mechanical Abortions since 1973 (This statistic does not count chemical abortions)

In the year 2000, there were 3,600 abortions per day; that is ONE reported mechanical abortion every 24 seconds in the United States!

In the year 2000: 24% of all pregnancies were ended by abortion! Only 7% of women reported rape, incest, or health concerns as a reason for having an abortion.Almost half of all abortions are performed on women who have had at least one abortion.

I ask the question!

Do you believe that God is judging America?

If not currently, then do you believe that He is going to judge America?

If He is now judging, or will in the near future judge, what form do you think that judgment will take?

The Bible tells of judgment upon those who hurt an unborn child.

Exo 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

Amo 1:13 Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of the children of Ammon, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have ripped up the women with child of Gilead, that they might enlarge their border:


Again, do you feel God is going to soon, or is He already, judging America?

What do you think?
we reap what we sow.

I don't believe the verse in Exodus 21 has anything to do with the USA. If you believe it does than....does everything in Ex.21 apply to the USA?

Unless you are a child of Ammon....than Amos is not speaking directly to you either.

floods...wars...droughts...extreme heat...extreme cold...these have all been happening for hundreds of years. not God...just the effects of men.
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What's the next plague for America? A coffee shortage?
You know, ever since Obama was elected the paper products haven't been stocked in the bathrooms at work like they used to be. This can't be a coincidence; and I'm blaming the Democrats!
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No offense dude, and I have family in KY, but being without electrical power is hardly a "Judgment of Biblical Proportions."
I am glad it was no worse than it was. Nonetheless people died and great amounts of peoples wealth was lost due to it.

In scripture we find judgments where as few as one person died. It was still Gods judgment.

Keep your eyes and ears open. Dwell in the secret place that you may find deliverance. Its gonna get much worse.
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