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Old 02-20-2009, 03:24 PM
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Re: For all you scholars--Animal Skins?

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The Bible "clearly" states "skins" but does not state animal skins. I agree with Baron and Ferd that the context of the traditional assumption that it was an animal skin makes the most sense. But still it is an interesting thought--that the original creation was likened unto the glorified body of Christ and that fallen man caused us to be "born in sin and shapen in iniquity."
The "celestial" body thought comes from 1 Cor. 15.
But from 1 Cor 15 we have this: 47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

further, the context of Gen 3:21 requires the skin there to be something other than human epidermis because it follows the creation of man in Chapter 2. primarily bone and flesh. but since you bring up 1 Cor 15, the context of that chapater further concludes that Adam was "terestrial"


this teaching your friend is looking at has been taught by the likes of William Branham. i would consider it a door to very bad things.
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Re: For all you scholars--Animal Skins?

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But from 1 Cor 15 we have this: 47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

further, the context of Gen 3:21 requires the skin there to be something other than human epidermis because it follows the creation of man in Chapter 2. primarily bone and flesh. but since you bring up 1 Cor 15, the context of that chapater further concludes that Adam was "terestrial"


this teaching your friend is looking at has been taught by the likes of William Branham. i would consider it a door to very bad things.
Seems to promote the glorification of man...
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Re: For all you scholars--Animal Skins?

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The Bible "clearly" states "skins" but does not state animal skins. I agree with Baron and Ferd that the context of the traditional assumption that it was an animal skin makes the most sense. But still it is an interesting thought--that the original creation was likened unto the glorified body of Christ and that fallen man caused us to be "born in sin and shapen in iniquity."
The "celestial" body thought comes from 1 Cor. 15.
The word "skins" in the original referred to "hide" and "leather." If this was not "animal skins" then it must have been human - only there were no other "donors" yet.

And I agree about The Baron and Fernando's appeal to context.
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Seems to promote the glorification of man...
Some forms of Gnosticism held that the "good God" (not Jehovah) created Adam and Eve with "celestial" or "spiritual" bodies. Then the "evil" God, the one who created the physical world in Genesis force Adam and Eve into physical bodies. This was the great crime of the ages - the physical world.

This view is predicated upon the notion that there are two co-equal gods, one of light and the other of darkness. This was the theology of the Albigensians and the Bogomils of the Middle Ages.
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Re: For all you scholars--Animal Skins?

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The implication of Gen 3:21 is that their sin required a blood sacrifice to cover their sin.


The above quote is correct.
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The word 'skin' in Gen 3:21 could be either a person's skin or the hide of an animal. You cannot say that the bible doesnt exclude the idea that the skin was that of an animal.

Further, the context of the previous chapter, shows that Adam was formed from the "dust of the ground" Then God formed woman from Adams rib.

Adam further suggests that both he and the woman are made of Flesh and bone.

Clearly the intent of Gen 2 is that man was not a spritual being but a physical being as well.

You cannot place the events of chapter 3 before the events of chapter 2 thus you cannot come to a conclusion that Adam and Eve were given their human/physical form when God made "skins" for them.

The implication of Gen 3:21 is that their sin required a blood sacrifice to cover their sin.
This is what I've always believed!
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Re: For all you scholars--Animal Skins?

Here is Genesis 3:21 in some different versions, paraphrases, etc.

God made leather clothing for Adam and his wife and dressed them.
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And the Lord God made clothing from animal skins for Adam and his wife.
New Living Translation

Then the LORD God made clothes out of animal skins for the man and his wife.
Contemporary English Version

The Lord God made clothes from animal skins for the man and his wife and dressed them. New Century Version

And the Lord God made leather tunics for Adam and his wife and clothed them New English Translation

The Lord God made clothes out of animal skins for Adam and his wife to wear. New International Readers Version
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