It Is Just A Plane Flight!!

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I knew a woman like that ....

[Aquila]

She might be crazy, however...

I'm not convinced that the subtitles are telling us what she's really saying. First off they use English pejoratives and curse words. Also there are illogical leaps in thought from one silly and outrageous point to another leading me to believe that whoever provided subtitles was looking for a laugh.

Orientals are typically rather stoic, it's culturally expected (consider the behavior, tone, and facial expressions of the employees and the gentleman with her). However, grief is typically demonstrated in the East with wailing, rolling on the ground, casting dirt on one's head, tearing one's clothes, and behavior such as this. Having served as a Medic in the military I'd say that this woman is exhibiting behavior indicative of extreme grief and despair. Another indicator is how security isn't subduing her and removing her. They appear to be attempting to calm her. Her wails sound hauntingly familiar. She's suffering great loss.

I'm not sure we should be laughing at this. Just something about it troubles me.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Aquila

She might be crazy, however...

I'm not convinced that the subtitles are telling us what she's really saying. First off they use English pejoratives and curse words. Also there are illogical leaps in thought from one silly and outrageous point to another leading me to believe that whoever provided subtitles was looking for a laugh.

Orientals are typically rather stoic, it's culturally expected (consider the behavior, tone, and facial expressions of the employees and the gentleman with her). However, grief is typically demonstrated with wailing, rolling on the ground, casting dirt on one's head, tearing one's clothes, and behavior such as this. Having served as a Medic in the military I'd say that this woman is exhibiting behavior indicative of extreme grief and despair. Another indicator is how security isn't subduing her and removing her. They appear to be attempting to calm her. Her wails sound hauntingly familiar. She's suffering great loss.

I'm not sure we should be laughing at this. Just something about it troubles me.

The one I watched had no "English pejoratives and curse words" seemed to be honest, in fact admitting at points they couldn't understand for sure what she was saying.

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Here are what I believe are the actual subtitles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i57IwNGu_qQ

[Aquila]

I'm still not convinced these are true subtitles of what they are saying. Subtitles like "Old Man:" and "**Takes a Break**" are not professional subtitling. In addition the "Arrrhhhhaaa" subtitles of her noises are not standard and are over the top in that they try to spell out her actual sound. Real subtitling would disregard her sounds and address only her words or say "Sobbing" or "Unintelligible". I just don't buy the idea that she's a manic Oriental woman worthy of being laughed at. There's something going on here that is more serious than we're aware of.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I'm still not convinced these are true subtitles of what they are saying. Subtitles like "Old Man:" and "**Takes a Break**" are not professional subtitling. In addition the "Arrrhhhhaaa" subtitles of her noises are not standard and are over the top in that they try to spell out her actual sound. Real subtitling would disregard her sounds and address only her words or say "Sobbing" or "Unintelligible". I just don't buy the idea that she's just a manic Oriental woman worthy of being laughed at. There's something going on here that is more serious than we're aware of.

OKAAAAAAY then. no one claimed it was a professional job. Good grief.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Aquila

She might be crazy, however...

I'm not convinced that the subtitles are telling us what she's really saying. First off they use English pejoratives and curse words. Also there are illogical leaps in thought from one silly and outrageous point to another leading me to believe that whoever provided subtitles was looking for a laugh.

Orientals are typically rather stoic, it's culturally expected (consider the behavior, tone, and facial expressions of the employees and the gentleman with her). However, grief is typically demonstrated in the East with wailing, rolling on the ground, casting dirt on one's head, tearing one's clothes, and behavior such as this. Having served as a Medic in the military I'd say that this woman is exhibiting behavior indicative of extreme grief and despair. Another indicator is how security isn't subduing her and removing her. They appear to be attempting to calm her. Her wails sound hauntingly familiar. She's suffering great loss.

I'm not sure we should be laughing at this. Just something about it troubles me.

You haven't lived in Vancouver where more than 250,000 of it's citizens are Chinese with the bulk of them Speaking Cantonese & from Hong Kong!
I have seen them flip out over more trivial matters than this!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

OKAAAAAAY then. no one claimed it was a professional job. Good grief.

lol

I'm just saying that there's something about her tone that leads me to believe that something very serious is happening. What troubles me is that no one has asked what's really going on. It seems like we're all to willing to laugh at a calamity without even asking as to what is really happening. We really don't know if the man in the film is her husband. It could be her brother. Her husband, son, or father could be dying in the United States.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Ron

You haven't lived in Vancouver where more than 250,000 of it's citizens are Chinese with the bulk of them Speaking Cantonese & from Hong Kong!
I have seen them flip out over more trivial matters than this!

I don't doubt that. lol

But I'm looking at this objectively. I don't know this woman's story and I'm not sure why I'm asked to laugh at her. Are we stereotyping for a laugh? If I were certain of what was happening here and she were just flipping out I might chuckle. But my point is that I don't know what's happening.

I just had my wife come in and I showed her the un-subtitled video on full screen. I asked her to watch it and tell me her impression of what's happening. After my wife watched it she asked, "Did someone die?"

I'd sure hate to get to Heaven and find out that I was sitting here, with my little boy playing in the den floor while I type, laughing at a woman who lost her son a couple hours later.

Now...if she's manic...yep, that's crazy and I REALLY feel for her husband. But my point is that I don't know why I'm expected to find this funny without knowing what's happening.

Seriously. Pretend that you're seeing this for the first time and that human beings normally have a reason for their actions. Also consider this is an Eastern woman in a culture that customarily expresses grief in tragic displays. I'm just not seeing the humor in it.

What if she's screaming, "My son is dying! My son is dying! Please stop the plane! My son is dying!"?

Hey bro, love you. Maybe it's just the Medic in me. How I would be evaluating the situation, not knowing her language, if I were called upon for assistance. Something about the tone her screams and behavior just strikes an uncomfortable cord in me.

[Aquila]

Holiness isn't hardness.