Checking In

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by tbpew

PP,
I ask that you do not provide anything more specific to identify your location or the speaker.

If the discussion is valid, it is valid based on the content not as a backdrop for a BBQ pit.

How different ones use an amplifying sound system to influence little ones in God from within a group setting is an important discussion. The setting is jam-packed with opportunities for one man to influence those who are often weak and impressionable.

One specific name will likely just derail the discussion to a dog-pile with nothing good coming from it.

Oh, by the way PP,
this is only my opinion...

In general I agree. BUT..... While I don’t necessarily want to mention names, I do think the guy who said this needs to have is card pulled! This isn’t a conservative/liberal issue. It is a stupid issue.

I do not have any kindness for someone who would lead a child down the primrose path. It is vile and should be dealt with in a disciplinary manner.

Bible School has its place for those seeking full time ministry. But to suggest that a GED was a good thing?

I am telling you right now, if I had been there and had a 16 year old kid, I would have met mister preacher when he came off the platform and come real close to laying hands on the fellow. And I would have demanded he apologize for the comment.

This is outrageous!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by CC1

Pastor Poster,

I have to think you are just lying about this. I mean I am constantly told that the UPC is not about that kind of preaching anymore!!!

Why are you spreading the stereotype that no longer exists?

that is the point. it isnt. or it should not be. this is stupid.

[myhaloisintheshop]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

Upsetting to who? Youth that did not pay attention at the local church, who did not discuss what was said back home.

Then upsetting when someone starts their own Youth Meetings?....... same situation as in California!

Upsetting that a man of God would think it is okay to tell kids its okay to just have a GED....that they should attend bible college over secular education.

My cousin is at a youth convention right now. She is a senior in high school and a few bricks shy of a load. She is risking not graduating because she wanted to go to this convention. Now lets say this preacher and her at the same conference.... I will bet she comes home and wants to get her GED. Ridiculous! This girl will take anything someone says over a pulpit as gospel.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by myhaloisintheshop

Upsetting that a man of God would think it is okay to tell kids its okay to just have a GED....that they should attend bible college over secular education.

My cousin is at a youth convention right now. She is a senior in high school and a few bricks shy of a load. She is risking not graduating because she wanted to go to this convention. Now lets say this preacher and her at the same conference.... I will bet she comes home and wants to get her GED. Ridiculous! This girl will take anything someone says over a pulpit as gospel.

Again, the parallels of what happenned in California are huge.

You state you would not send your youth group to this meeting. This was lambasted as a bad thing when it happenned in California.

[Lucy Van Pelt]

I am sure I would not be allowed in because I wear short sleeve dresses.

[myhaloisintheshop]

My husband and I take our youth to conventions every year. But if I was at THIS convention I probably would have left and went back to our hotel.

[RevDWW]

How about talking to whoever is in charge about this issue and getting it resolved. It's one thing to complain, it's another to try and rectify the situation.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Howdy All,

I am checking in from youth convention where the predominent theme has been "holiness". You would not EVEN believe some of the junk that has come over the pulpit here.

Last night the speaker told the teens they need to go to bible college. He stated that parents should push them to this, and that if parents choose secular college over bc they are wrong. He also stated that kids and parents should be proud if the highest level of education they receive is a GED.

I was a little bit more than upset.

Oh, we've also had a preacher call Anna Nicole a whore from the pulpit.

I'm so thankful for the in depth teaching they have been receiving.

It's not the first time we've heard this king of preaching or emphasis at a youth convention or even at campmeeting and conferences.

Has there not been any orther speakers or messages or points made during the whole series of meetings to counter-balance the emphasis you mention here? If not, maybe there will be yet.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

Again, the parallels of what happenned in California are huge.

You state you would not send your youth group to this meeting. This was lambasted as a bad thing when it happenned in California.

the difference here is that the fellow who said it would be speaking at the alternitive camp in Cali....

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

How about talking to whoever is in charge about this issue and getting it resolved. It's one thing to complain, it's another to try and rectify the situation.

you can be sure that I would be talking to the fellows who had this guy speak.