Does Dan Seagraves Believe in the LIght Doctrine????

[Michael The Disciple]

The light doctrine is an attempt to balance the goodness and severity of God. If one lived up to all the truth they knew where would be their sin?

It could be the application of "to whom much is given much is required" or vice versa.

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

The light doctrine is an attempt to balance the goodness and severity of God. If one lived up to all the truth they knew where would be their sin?

It could be the application of "to whom much is given much is required" or vice versa.

Any such attempt by man is futile as God will never be balanced in severity and goodness. His goodness far outweighs His severity.

But what some folks do not understand is that God has incredibly broad parameters of mercy and incredibly narrow parameters of judgment. But as an individual tramples grace underfoot they narrow the paremeters of God's mercy and broaden His parameters of judgment in their own life.

[Michael The Disciple]

22: Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. Rom. 11:22

Anyone who does not continue in his goodness will be cut off.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by rrford

Any such attempt by man is futile as God will never be balanced in severity and goodness. His goodness far outweighs His severity.

But what some folks do not understand is that God has incredibly broad parameters of mercy and incredibly narrow parameters of judgment. But as an individual tramples grace underfoot they narrow the paremeters of God's mercy and broaden His parameters of judgment in their own life.

I agree with your statements on His goodness ... are you a proponent of this light doctrine ... RR??

Many recent CLC grads seem to be very open-minded on many issues, undoubtedly influenced by Dr. S.

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I agree with your statements on His goodness ... are you a proponent of this light doctrine ... RR??

Many recent CLC grads seem to be very open-minded on many issues, undoubtedly influenced by Dr. S.

Hmmm, hoe to answer said question?

No, I am not a proponent of the "light doctrine." But on the other hand, IMO, the ultimate judge of one's salvation is God alone. If He decides to save the whole world in whatever condition they are in, then I will be thrilled beyond words. What is required of me is to simply believe, practice, preach and teach what the Word says. "Except a man be born again..."

[Trouvere]

Originally Posted by Thad

I believe so
also, they teach in Progressive Restoration. The true gospel was destroyed when the early church was killed off and during the dark ages. the church was slowly restored step by step thru the centuries by men such as martin Luther, John wesley , etc

I read that.Its also taught and supported in the big black and white Pentecostal Home Bible Course that used to be(I don't know if it is currently)
a requirement for license at least it was when I was.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Thad

I have high respect for Bro Seagraves and If this Question offends anyone I am hoping and asking that the thread be deleted " If it offends your Brother".......
anyhow, I know that he use to have a site where people could ask him Bible Questions and there was some commotion about the fact that he eluded to what would be considered the Old " light doctrine".

Is it wrong to believe in the light doctrine? can you be considered a 3 stepper and believe in it ?
what exactly is it ? If my memory serves me right tonight, I thought it was where only those Baptized in Jesus Name will make it in the rapture? all others will stay through the wrath of God in the tribulation and then be the servant of those who were bapt. In JN ?
All these people will be those who walked in all they knew and were not given deeper revelation by God.

what scriptures do they use for this Doctrine? I'd be interested in reading up on it - thanks

This is what he believes:

We are justified at the point of faith, everyone who is in the bride of Christ has to be baptized in Jesus Name.

That baptism unites us with Christ Romans 6; Col. 2, and that the normative experience of the New Birth in the NT is faith, repentance, baptism and receiving the Holy Spirit.

He does not call what he believes to be the light doctrine, but will discuss freely what C. Haney, GT Haywood and A. Urshan believed and in the least they validated as being legit. the experiences of true faith found outside our understanding.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Fonix

Thadious
Since when did you start having a conscience over offending anyone?? Never bothered you b4

Gee thanks for the compliment whoever you are

[Thad]

Originally Posted by keith4him

This is what he believes:

We are justified at the point of faith, everyone who is in the bride of Christ has to be baptized in Jesus Name.

That baptism unites us with Christ Romans 6; Col. 2, and that the normative experience of the New Birth in the NT is faith, repentance, baptism and receiving the Holy Spirit.

He does not call what he believes to be the light doctrine, but will discuss freely what C. Haney, GT Haywood and A. Urshan believed and in the least they validated as being legit. the experiences of true faith found outside our understanding.

that's a little vauge keith but i understand

[rrford]

Originally Posted by keith4him

This is what he believes:

We are justified at the point of faith, everyone who is in the bride of Christ has to be baptized in Jesus Name.

That baptism unites us with Christ Romans 6; Col. 2, and that the normative experience of the New Birth in the NT is faith, repentance, baptism and receiving the Holy Spirit.

He does not call what he believes to be the light doctrine, but will discuss freely what C. Haney, GT Haywood and A. Urshan believed and in the least they validated as being legit. the experiences of true faith found outside our understanding.

Not sure how you mean that statement. Is one part of the bride prior to taking in His name in baptism? It would seem that the implication is that one becomes part of the bride at justification.