What is your greatest ability? - Page 2

BoredOutOfMyMind · #11 02-12-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by whollyHis

I have to say that I disagree with these posts, also...but, I won't go into WHY on here- I'll just get 'blasted' by the pastors...

If we are going to simply disagree, we will never have any discussion.

I think they both had merit. Many on the pew are unwilling to take a part. Sir Ferd, are there more points to the lesson. It sounds like a winner.

Malvaro · #12 02-12-2007, 04:45 PM

What is your greatest ability?

The ones that I use.... I may not be completely proficient in areas, but I am willing to try....

whollyHis · #13 02-12-2007, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

If we are going to simply disagree, we will never have any discussion.

I think they both had merit. Many on the pew are unwilling to take a part. Sir Ferd, are there more points to the lesson. It sounds like a winner.

Well, for one thing- I believe that the pews are full of folk that are unwilling to take part, because they are tired of being passed over for the small nuclei that do it all. I know, for a fact of folk that yearn to be used, but are passed over, because they are not part of the 'group' that does it all.

I know what you all are gonna say- that I am bitter against leadership- that is SOOOOO far from the truth. But, I observe and I can see the trend in my local assembly...it hurts me to see folk that have so much to offer, just sit and rot in the pew...

You cannot paint with such a broad brush...there are good saints out there that WANT to be used...believe me.

Ferd · #14 02-12-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

If we are going to simply disagree, we will never have any discussion.

I think they both had merit. Many on the pew are unwilling to take a part. Sir Ferd, are there more points to the lesson. It sounds like a winner.

Not really. bottom line, Paul was smarter than everybody else but if he decided not to play, he wouldnt have changed the world.... Sure he changed the world because he was both brilliant and a zelot....and more importanlty anointed by God. And sure his starting point was miraculous....but there have been many who started out due to a miraculous encounter only to fall. and there have been many who were brilliant who chose a different path.

I am convinced that I am right about 1 thing. NOTHING gets done for God if the doer wasnt first available.

Rhoni · #15 02-12-2007, 04:56 PM

My greatest ability is to organize and delegate

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Blessings, Rhoni

whollyHis · #16 02-12-2007, 04:57 PM

[QUOTE=Ferd;3387]Not really. bottom line, Paul was smarter than everybody else but if he decided not to play, he wouldnt have changed the world.... Sure he changed the world because he was both brilliant and a zelot....and more importanlty anointed by God. And sure his starting point was miraculous....but there have been many who started out due to a miraculous encounter only to fall. and there have been many who were brilliant who chose a different path.

I am convinced that I am right about 1 thing. NOTHING gets done for God if the doer wasnt first available.[/QUOTE]

But, the way church government is set up today, you cannot do anything unless you are allowed to. Availability is just the FIRST requirement- there are many hoops to jump through after that...*smile*

Rhoni · #17 02-12-2007, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

Not really. bottom line, Paul was smarter than everybody else but if he decided not to play, he wouldnt have changed the world.... Sure he changed the world because he was both brilliant and a zelot....and more importanlty anointed by God. And sure his starting point was miraculous....but there have been many who started out due to a miraculous encounter only to fall. and there have been many who were brilliant who chose a different path.

I am convinced that I am right about 1 thing. NOTHING gets done for God if the doer wasnt first available.[/QUOTE]

But, the way church government is set up today, you cannot do anything unless you are allowed to. Availability is just the FIRST requirement- there are many hoops to jump through after that...*smile*

Yep...you have to humble yourself to clean a toilet before you can hand your credentials on the wall! LOL

whollyHis · #18 02-12-2007, 05:01 PM

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Yep...you have to humble yourself to clean a toilet before you can hand your credentials on the wall! LOL

hehhee...true.

AmazingGrace · #19 02-12-2007, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni

My greatest ability is to organize and delegate

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Blessings, Rhoni

LOL.... wanna come help me organize my house when I get one?!?! LOL

I am soooooooo not organized lately!

Ferd · #20 02-12-2007, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by whollyHis

Well, for one thing- I believe that the pews are full of folk that are unwilling to take part, because they are tired of being passed over for the small nuclei that do it all. I know, for a fact of folk that yearn to be used, but are passed over, because they are not part of the 'group' that does it all.

I know what you all are gonna say- that I am bitter against leadership- that is SOOOOO far from the truth. But, I observe and I can see the trend in my local assembly...it hurts me to see folk that have so much to offer, just sit and rot in the pew...

You cannot paint with such a broad brush...there are good saints out there that WANT to be used...believe me.

I dont think you are bitter at all....

Now let me tell you the side of that little nuclei that are doing everything. Friend, I am in that group in my church. You know what? When we get done cleaning up after the rest of the church came, enjoyed, then left. we sit there TIERD wondering why those enjoyers didnt pitch in. The fact is, that small group that is doing everything arent doing it because they dont want you to have fun. They are doing it, because you arent.

Dont blame me for getting to church early to get things set up, pray and get ready for the day. Dont blame me for spending hours each week prepairing to teach a sunday school lesson. Blame yourself for not telling the pastor you need a job. Blame yourself for letting someone else clean the bathrooms.

the reason that small group of people are the "inner circle" is because they are the ones the Pastor KNOWS will get the job done. If you arent in that group, there is a better than zero chance, you havent joined in, showed up, stayed untill the lights got turned out.

You didnt go to the Pastor and ASK if you could cut the grass, teach a class or help with a dinner.

well I just dumped on you. Im sorry. make yourself available and before long, you will be longing for a pew and wondering why those other folk are just sitting there enjoying when you are working.