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Old 11-30-2008, 02:43 PM
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If you really want to help people, don't get on this my church, that church ideal. Be a christian and others will feel it. I'm so tired of looking at christians and feeling no christianity.
We have to look to Jesus, not people. Jesus is the truth. People are sad and pitiful, and we are all people.
Pastors and evangelists are people too.
I just pray for a right spirit with God.
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:43 PM
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We have to look to Jesus, not people. Jesus is the truth. People are sad and pitiful, and we are all people.
Pastors and evangelists are people too.
I just pray for a right spirit with God.
Each one of us needs that attitude. We need to understand that we each work out our own salvation. Many want the priviledge of working out theirs but they want to work out every body elses also. Stick to working out your own.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:10 PM
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That is exactly the point. We are all people. Just some preachers use the pulpit to manipulate an audience by intimidation. It is very dangerous to use the pulpit this way.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:34 PM
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That is exactly the point. We are all people. Just some preachers use the pulpit to manipulate an audience by intimidation. It is very dangerous to use the pulpit this way.
Yes it is.
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That is exactly the point. We are all people. Just some preachers use the pulpit to manipulate an audience by intimidation. It is very dangerous to use the pulpit this way.
and if we listen to some EVERY preacher is like that. (this is not directed at you Racine)
Thankfully I have not had the priviledge of meeting to many like this myself. Thank God.
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Old 12-02-2008, 05:33 PM
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No, there are some really sincere people behind the pulpits. But one apple can spoil the whole bunch.

The main point I am trying to make with this thread is that people need to be given the right to say what they see is wrong without fear of condemnation or that they have trampled on some holy ground. I've often thought that it would be so nice for there to be more of a councilling atmosphere not just a shut up and listen to me place. I wish I would hear from so many that I know have been through what I have been through. Don't worry I am not trying to discourage people. The people that are discouraged are the ones that no one listens to.
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No, there are some really sincere people behind the pulpits. But one apple can spoil the whole bunch.

The main point I am trying to make with this thread is that people need to be given the right to say what they see is wrong without fear of condemnation or that they have trampled on some holy ground. I've often thought that it would be so nice for there to be more of a councilling atmosphere not just a shut up and listen to me place. I wish I would hear from so many that I know have been through what I have been through. Don't worry I am not trying to discourage people. The people that are discouraged are the ones that no one listens to.
I guess that makes me really thankful for my pastor. He and I have had a few disagreements. He does not condemn me for my opinions and I do not hold it against him that he does not do it my way. =)
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Re: Helping people

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If you really want to help people, don't get on this my church, that church ideal. Be a christian and others will feel it. I'm so tired of looking at christians and feeling no christianity.



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