Smaller is Better-A interesting Statistic - Page 2

Pastor Keith · #11 02-12-2007, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Drama Queen

I personally like a larger church. But maybe that's because that's what I'm use too.

Even thou the POA is a large church, everyone does know everyone. You may not be best-buds with everyone... but at least you have a few choices on whom you hang with! That's one of the down sides to smaller churches... your limited on your "church" friends.

It's really hard to fall in the cracks at the POA because they are sooo organized and have people in place ready to get you involved and connected. I do realize that at most larger churches this is not always the case.

What can I say... THE POA ROCKS!!!

Christian Schwarz did say that there are large churches that are able to be quality churches, but they according to his research are the exceptions. I agree with you POA is one of those.

By the way the 8 qualities or characteristics that he measured/found in healthy growing churches are:

1.Empowering Leadership — Is our mission to gather helpers for one leader’s ministry or to release the ministry potential that is in the "helpers?"
2.Gift-oriented Ministry — Does the spiritual gifting of each individual fit the ministry task he or she performs?
3.Passionate Spirituality — How much do we inspire passion and enthusiasm for Christ and His cause?
4.Functional Structures — Do our internal structures foster growth and multiplication or hinder it?
5.Inspiring Worship — How much do our worship services help people get inspiration from the Lord?
6.Holistic Small Groups — How much do our small group ministries meet the spiritual, mental, and physical needs of individual believers?
7.Need-Oriented Evangelism — How much do we direct the gospel to the felt needs of the people we are ministering to?
8.Loving Relationships — How much does our church demonstrate love in action and deed?

Rhoni · #12 02-12-2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by keith4him

Christian Schwarz did say that there are large churches that are able to be quality churches, but they according to his research are the exceptions. I agree with you POA is one of those.

By the way the 8 qualities or characteristics that he measured/found in healthy growing churches are:

1.Empowering Leadership — Is our mission to gather helpers for one leader’s ministry or to release the ministry potential that is in the "helpers?"
2.Gift-oriented Ministry — Does the spiritual gifting of each individual fit the ministry task he or she performs?
3.Passionate Spirituality — How much do we inspire passion and enthusiasm for Christ and His cause?
4.Functional Structures — Do our internal structures foster growth and multiplication or hinder it?
5.Inspiring Worship — How much do our worship services help people get inspiration from the Lord?
6.Holistic Small Groups — How much do our small group ministries meet the spiritual, mental, and physical needs of individual believers?
7.Need-Oriented Evangelism — How much do we direct the gospel to the felt needs of the people we are ministering to?
8.Loving Relationships — How much does our church demonstrate love in action and deed?

Great qualities for smaller churches who will grow with the above in place, as well as bigger churches who practice the same

Blessings, rhoni

RevDWW · #13 02-12-2007, 05:49 PM

POA's emphasis is connection. Connection to God, connection to community, and connection to each other. While you can't connect with everyone at a large church, you should be able to find like mined souls to connect with.

Poeple will stay if they find others to be connected with.

Rhoni · #14 02-12-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW

POA's emphasis is connection. Connection to God, connection to community, and connection to each other. While you can't connect with everyone at a large church, you should be able to find like mined souls to connect with.

Poeple will stay if they find others to be connected with.

AMEN!

MrRight · #15 02-12-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by revrandy

I think the atmosphere & the attitude of the Church will always reflect the leadership it has...

I have never been to POA although I have freinds who have and they have told me that it seemed that Bro. Anthony & Sis. Mickey touched everybody at the service...

That mst be what heppens when the pastor really loves the peolpe.

(what aer these red lines for when I type?)

IAintMovin · #16 02-12-2007, 06:00 PM

I know some guys that will be delighted to know that smaller is better - now they dont have to do anything.

Sorry I couldnt resist.

Good Info Keith

RevDWW · #17 02-12-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MrRight

(what aer these red lines for when I type?)

Pssst that means "they're" watching you.........

or you've spelled something worng....no....I guess it couldn't be the later.....

ManOfWord · #18 02-12-2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MrRight

That mst be what heppens when the pastor really loves the peolpe.

(what aer these red lines for when I type?)

When you type in the post window, if you mispsell a word, it becomes underlined in red so you know that it is not spelled right. Get that, not spelled RIGHT!

MrRight · #19 02-12-2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

When you type in the post window, if you mispsell a word, it becomes underlined in red so you know that it is not spelled right. Get that, not spelled RIGHT!

OK, I think I get it. I guess it dosnt help if you don't know how to spell the word thogh. I don't have time to guess all nite on the spelling!