Are ALL Cultures Equal?

[El Apostolico]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I saw a youtube video of some radio show host or something stating all cultures are NOT equal. The list of comments as a result were basically callling her a racists. Race is not culture. Just because a culture might be or seem inferior to someone in some areas does not make that person a racist.

What do you think?

All Humans are sinners and so all human cultures are formed in sin and slaves to the Kingdom of Darkness. Christ came to redeem man and to have victory over the Kingdom of Darkness, and so the only superior culture is that which Christ established through his church.

I remember when I was a sophomore I went to a private Christian school. I was in World History and my professor said that the Aztecs were wiped out because God had willed it after seeing all the human sacrifices. My blood boiled, and it is only by the aid of Holy Spirit that I did not tell him all the atrocities created by Western European Culture.

There is no one Superior culture. We are all sinners. Only Christ is superior.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by El Apostolico

All Humans are sinners and so all human cultures are formed in sin and slaves to the Kingdom of Darkness. Christ came to redeem man and to have victory over the Kingdom of Darkness, and so the only superior culture is that which Christ established through his church.

I remember when I was a sophomore I went to a private Christian school. I was in World History and my professor said that the Aztecs were wiped out because God had willed it after seeing all the human sacrifices. My blood boiled, and it is only by the aid of Holy Spirit that I did not tell him all the atrocities created by Western European Culture.

There is no one Superior culture. We are all sinners. Only Christ is superior.

So...is the answer YES all cultures are equal? BTW a culture is not a race.

Human cultures are not formed in sin...HUMANS are formed in sin.

Western European cultures were responsible for a lot of bad things, because it was acceptable.

It's no longer acceptable, the bad things are done by bad people in Europe or America, not by the culture. Cultures evolve, but that does not prevent evil men with evil intent from doing their will

[El Apostolico]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

So...is the answer YES all cultures are equal? BTW a culture is not a race.

Human cultures are not formed in sin...HUMANS are formed in sin.

Western European cultures were responsible for a lot of bad things, because it was acceptable.

It's no longer acceptable, the bad things are done by bad people in Europe or America, not by the culture. Cultures evolve, but that does not prevent evil men with evil intent from doing their will

I'd say they are all equal, and are in need of Jesus. I know that culture =/= race.

So Western European culture is perfect? Maybe its because I'm from a different culture, but I see plenty of stuff wrong W.E. culture.

Human cultures are formed in sin for they are productions of sinful humans. The Bible says that there is nothing good we do Praxeas...that must include everything.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by El Apostolico

I'd say they are all equal, and are in need of Jesus. I know that culture =/= race.

The question isn't though that everyone needs Jesus. Cultures don't need Jesus. People need Jesus.

So Western European culture is perfect?

Who said that? Nobody said any culture is perfect.

Maybe its because I'm from a different culture, but I see plenty of stuff wrong W.E. culture.

Nobody said there was nothing wrong with W.E. culture.

Human cultures are formed in sin for they are productions of sinful humans.

No, HUMANS are formed in sin...didn't we just do this? HUMANS are formed in sin. Cultures are the norms, beliefs, practices etc etc that we Humans form. It's the HUMAN that are formed in sin

The Bible says that there is nothing good we do Praxeas...that must include everything.

believing in God is not good? But again, this statement has nothing to do with the idea that one culture is better than another or that all cultures are the same (equal)

[Praxeas]

A 13-year-old girl who said she had been raped was stoned to death in Somalia after being accused of adultery by Islamic militants, a human rights group said.
Dozens of men stoned Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow to death Oct. 27 in a stadium packed with 1,000 spectators in the southern port city of Kismayo, Amnesty International and Somali media reported, citing witnesses. The Islamic militia in charge of Kismayo had accused her of adultery after she reported that three men had raped her, the rights group said.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,445962,00.html

[meBNme]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Who said that? Nobody said any culture is perfect.

Correct, even the undisputed champion culture I spoke of earlier is not perfect. Close, but not perfect.

[meBNme]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

A 13-year-old girl who said she had been raped was stoned to death in Somalia after being accused of adultery by Islamic militants, a human rights group said.
Dozens of men stoned Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow to death Oct. 27 in a stadium packed with 1,000 spectators in the southern port city of Kismayo, Amnesty International and Somali media reported, citing witnesses. The Islamic militia in charge of Kismayo had accused her of adultery after she reported that three men had raped her, the rights group said.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,445962,00.html

Prax, Is this a result of culture...... or religion?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by meBNme

Prax, Is this a result of culture...... or religion?

Often culture and religion's are blurred or combined. Our culture for many years was strongly influenced by Christianity

[El Apostolico]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The question isn't though that everyone needs Jesus. Cultures don't need Jesus. People need Jesus.


Who said that? Nobody said any culture is perfect.


Nobody said there was nothing wrong with W.E. culture.


No, HUMANS are formed in sin...didn't we just do this? HUMANS are formed in sin. Cultures are the norms, beliefs, practices etc etc that we Humans form. It's the HUMAN that are formed in sin


believing in God is not good? But again, this statement has nothing to do with the idea that one culture is better than another or that all cultures are the same (equal)

Praxeas...cultures are the creations of men. As such if men need Jesus, so do their respective cultures or perhaps they need to be re-oriented.

Perhaps I misinterpreted your diction two posts ago to mean that W.E. culture had evolved to a state of near blamelessness, forgive me for supposing incorrectly.

I would agree that Humans are the ones who need redemption. But so do cultures in the sense that certain cultural norms must be destroyed, and others are or can be Christo-centric. Again, man is linked to his respective culture, and that culture in the light of the Spirit and the Scriptures must be changed. Perhaps change or shift would be a better word?

"For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross." Colossians 1:19-20

Maybe its a hermeneutical stretch, but I read it from this angle, that all things need to be reconciled...all including culture. No culture is better, for cultures are composed of sinful men and each and every culture has something that does not line up with the Scriptures and the Spirit. Everything needs to be changed.

I see you have made my same mistake in going to an extreme. Belief in God originates with God and not with us (Prevenient Grace) so we cannot really attribute belief in God as a work of man.

All cultures are equal in the sense that they are imperfect (perhaps you would be much more comfortable with that term).

[commonsense]

First I don't equate race with culture.

Are they equal? I don't know. They're all different. Although less so today at one time the culture of a community was based on the ethnicity of the neighborhood.
To me culture is more how we live, what we do for enjoyment (museums: art, history; symphony concerts, the zoo; our food; our dress----but again much less so today than in the 1800's.)
So who is to judge culture??