WOW! Robert Schuller removes his son as PASTOR!

[tstew]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Shuller has a feel good gospel...maybe his son started preaching against sin lol

That would probably empty out the Cathedral.
I wonder though if it is the opposite. I saw a show that involved the younger Shuller and his daugther and he appeared more liberal than the average church goer. The Crystal Cathedral does have an older congregation, and I wonder if he was too liberal for them.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by tstew

That is interesting. I'm sure that there is a very complicated back story that we'll never know. The Crystal Cathedral is a huge enterprise and those things can get really complicated and involve the influence of people that we don't know anything about.

I heard his son on a TV talk show share how he met his current wife.

He was living in a high end condo complex near the ocean.

It was during his divorce from his first wife.

She had kicked him out of the home.

He was walking along the beech.

When he notice a woman approaching him.

As he described her she looked like a godess approaching him.

She was clad in a bikini.

It was at that moment before she uttered a word to him.

That God spoke to him that she would be his wife.

She was a backslid christian at the time and former model and beauty queen.

They met in 1983 he was not divorced from his first wife until 1984.

He married his current wife Donna the same year.

To me the story of how he met his current wife and God speaking to him on the beech to a former beauty queen in a bikini.

Just made me think this guy just is not right.

What would have happend if the woman walking up to him that day was not a former beauty queen?

Would God have spoken to him?

I have always thought he needed to hit the alter himself and have a hour of power in repentance....

[tstew]

Originally Posted by Neck

I heard his son on a TV talk show share how he met his current wife.

He was living in a high end condo complex near the ocean.

It was during his divorce from his first wife.

She had kicked him out of the home.

He was walking along the beech.

When he notice a woman approaching him.

As he described her she looked like a godess approaching him.

She was clad in a bikini.

It was at that moment before she uttered a word to him.

That God spoke to him that she would be his wife.

She was a backslid christian at the time and former model and beauty queen.

They met in 1983 he was not divorced from his first wife until 1984.

He married his current wife Donna the same year.

To me the story of how he met his current wife and God speaking to him on the beech to a former beauty queen in a bikini.

Just made me think this guy just is not right.

What would have happend if the woman walking up to him that day was not a former beauty queen?

Would God have spoken to him?

I have always thought he needed to hit the alter himself and have a hour of power in repentance....

There was a show that featured one of his daughters and I was surprised at what he allowed to have portrayed out there. I don't remember the particulars, but I remember raising an eyebrow.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Neck

I heard his son on a TV talk show share how he met his current wife.

He was living in a high end condo complex near the ocean.

It was during his divorce from his first wife.

She had kicked him out of the home.

He was walking along the beech.

When he notice a woman approaching him.

As he described her she looked like a godess approaching him.

She was clad in a bikini.

It was at that moment before she uttered a word to him.

That God spoke to him that she would be his wife.

She was a backslid christian at the time and former model and beauty queen.

They met in 1983 he was not divorced from his first wife until 1984.

He married his current wife Donna the same year.

To me the story of how he met his current wife and God speaking to him on the beech to a former beauty queen in a bikini.

Just made me think this guy just is not right.

What would have happend if the woman walking up to him that day was not a former beauty queen?

Would God have spoken to him?

I have always thought he needed to hit the alter himself and have a hour of power in repentance....

Rhoni will say you are a legalist you need more grace.

[CC1]

I read an article this morning about this issue that was quite interesting. It said that the elder Schuler's gripe with his son is that his son was preaching too much scripture. Too much right and wrong.

The elder Schuler said that they were a missions effort first and a church second while his son treated the ministry like a church first.

[tstew]

Originally Posted by CC1

I read an article this morning about this issue that was quite interesting. It said that the elder Schuler's gripe with his son is that his son was preaching too much scripture. Too much right and wrong.

The elder Schuler said that they were a missions effort first and a church second while his son treated the ministry like a church first.

That is surprising and scary. I don't think I've ever seen it play out that way with the generations being on the reverse side of that argument.

[Truthseeker]

family run churches usually have problems. Amazing how the busin....I mean church is passed on to the son. It happens alot among us as well.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by tstew

That is surprising and scary. I don't think I've ever seen it play out that way with the generations being on the reverse side of that argument.

Here is a link to an LA Times story and then a quote from it below the link;

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,6032775.story

Schuller built his worldwide ministry over a half century on the psychology of positive thinking and appealing to people turned off by the formality of traditional faiths. In contrast, his son's sermons have been full of direct references to the Bible.

"I was called to start a mission, not a church," Schuller told his audience Sunday. "There is a difference. . . . You don't try to preach . . . what is sin and what isn't sin. A mission is a place where you ask nonbelievers to come and find faith and hope and feel love. We're a mission first, a church second."

[Ferd]

can somebody explain why I am supposed to care?

[MikeinAR]

Originally Posted by CC1

Here is a link to an LA Times story and then a quote from it below the link;

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,6032775.story

Schuller built his worldwide ministry over a half century on the psychology of positive thinking and appealing to people turned off by the formality of traditional faiths. In contrast, his son's sermons have been full of direct references to the Bible.

"I was called to start a mission, not a church," Schuller told his audience Sunday. "There is a difference. . . . You don't try to preach . . . what is sin and what isn't sin. A mission is a place where you ask nonbelievers to come and find faith and hope and feel love. We're a mission first, a church second."

Schuller's quote there makes me nauseous. "You don't try to preach...what is sin and what isn't sin." But he wants people to come "find faith and hope and feel love."

Faith in what? Robert Schuller? The Chrystal Cathedral? All of their warm and fuzzy feelings?

If you don't preach truth and scripture how in the wide world is anyone going to find faith? That's heresy, plain and simple.