And ain't that a shame, too! I'm appalled that voting for the leader of our nation comes down to voting for the "less bad" candidate, not for who we really believe is the best. And even hinting that one might vote for an alternative candidate brings up all the emotional rhetoric associated with "throwing away your vote." If I think about it long enough I might vomit!
well, my beef with third party candidates really is that these third parties arent doing what they need to do to become viable.
They want the same instant gratification that seems to be at the heart of all our trouble in this country.
if you ask me, until a third party starts doing the hard work of building a party from the ground up, they dont deserve anyone's vote.
I have said it a thousand times, if you show me a third party that is concervative and is willing to start at the ground and build a real party, I will join and help. until then, I aint buying what they are selling. simiple as that.
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In my opinion, the Islamic attack on Sept. 11 was not orchestrated by GWB but actually by Muslims. It happened while GWB was president and I think he did what he thought he should do. We can do a lot of second guessing now and there will be even more second guessing and Monday morning quarterbacking later but I think GWB acted on the collective intelligence of the U.S. and Europe and felt like we should take out Saddam Hussein.
Come on Sam 9/11 is not connected in any way with the Iraq war. There was not one Iraqis on any of those planes. Saddam was not a threat to the US. This is a war of choice for Bush. Pay back for an attempt on his dads life. Cheney pushed and manipulated the intelligent information to go to war. The financial benefit for Cheney was and is still great. There were no weapons of mas destruction even if Fox news tries to say there was.
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Sometimes I think I'm the only one on AFF that likes President Bush. I think that in time he will go down as one of our strongest presidents. War time presidents are always disliked.
We as Apostolic's more than anyone else should know that wars can not be avoided. In the last days there will be wars and rumors of wars. We are fooling ourselves if we think we can live in peace.
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I don't think GWB is a bad president.
In my opinion, the Islamic attack on Sept. 11 was not orchestrated by GWB but actually by Muslims. It happened while GWB was president and I think he did what he thought he should do. We can do a lot of second guessing now and there will be even more second guessing and Monday morning quarterbacking later but I think GWB acted on the collective intelligence of the U.S. and Europe and felt like we should take out Saddam Hussein.
As far as the economic crisis, GWB did not start that. We are now reaping what we sowed for years. Some called it the housing bubble and many knew it would burst in time. Under the Carter presidency it was decided to make housing available to more people. Lending institutions were pressured into making bad loans so more people could have houses. As money was freely available, houses were built larger and larger and sold for inflated prices. People were pressured into taking out loans that were larger than the price of the house. The frenzy began. More building, high appraisals, larger loans, etc. Some voices in government called for investigations into Fannie and Freddie and they were drowned out by those who were receiving funds from those two institutions. This couldn't last forever. Unfortunately for GWB, he was the President when the bubble burst. Since it happened during his term, he got blamed for the whole thing.
Just as Hoover was blamed for the great depression. I may be the only member of AFF that remembers the depression or at least the results of it. The second world war actually ended the depression.
Just as Hoover was blamed for the great depression. I may be the only member of AFF that remembers the depression or at least the results of it. The second world war actually ended the depression.
Yes you are correct about the second world war.
This war is doing the opposite, it is helping us along to another depression.
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Obama had 100,000 at his rally here in St. Louis last Saturday. Good reason, Saturday, nice day at the arch and a free concert by the lesbian singer K.D Lang and others. I wonder how many are following him for the loaves and fishes he offers. Many are ready to receive some of that spread the wealth of those who have worked hard most of their lives and have become succesful. John McCain didn't do too bad this morning 9am on a Monday morning way out in the boonies at New Town. Ticket required (free). On guy we talked to a few minutes ago said it was great and we're gonna win.
Sometimes I think I'm the only one on AFF that likes President Bush. I think that in time he will go down as one of our strongest presidents. War time presidents are always disliked.
We as Apostolic's more than anyone else should know that wars can not be avoided. In the last days there will be wars and rumors of wars. We are fooling ourselves if we think we can live in peace.
SW, I like GW quite a bit. I greatly respect what he has done to combat global islamic terrorism. And under the circumstances he has faced he has been pretty solid on economic issues even if we are currently in a mess. Which as Sam points out began long before GW was president.
I still say he will eventually go down somwhere in the middle of the two term presidents.
The thing that has cost him the most was a decision on his part not to expend too much capital in supporting conservative domestic policy actions.
I think he decided that he needed to win on issues related to the war on terror and thus didnt fight out of control spending by congress. AT the end of the day, that has led to a very mixed bag.
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IF THE OBAMA AND THE DEMS BRING BACK THE SO-CALLED "FAIRNESS DOCTRINE" TO MUZZLE THE RIGHT WING, I WILL CONSIDER THAT NOTHING BUT MARXIST.
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NEWS STORY: Dems Get Set To Muzzle The Right
Would a President Obama veto a new Fairness Doctrine if Congress enacted one? It's doubtful.
The Fairness Doctrine was an astonishingly bad idea. It's a too-tempting power for government to abuse. When the doctrine was in effect, both Democratic and Republican administrations regularly used it to harass critics on radio and TV.
Second, a new Fairness Doctrine would drive political talk radio off the dial. If a station ran a big-audience conservative program like, say, Laura Ingraham's, it would also have to run a left-leaning alternative. But liberals don't do well on talk radio, as the failure of Air America and indeed all other liberal efforts in the medium to date show. Stations would likely trim back conservative shows so as to avoid airing unsuccessful liberal ones.
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IF THE OBAMA AND THE DEMS BRING BACK THE SO-CALLED "FAIRNESS DOCTRINE" TO MUZZLE THE RIGHT WING, I WILL CONSIDER THAT NOTHING BUT MARXIST.
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NEWS STORY: Dems Get Set To Muzzle The Right
Would a President Obama veto a new Fairness Doctrine if Congress enacted one? It's doubtful.
The Fairness Doctrine was an astonishingly bad idea. It's a too-tempting power for government to abuse. When the doctrine was in effect, both Democratic and Republican administrations regularly used it to harass critics on radio and TV.
Second, a new Fairness Doctrine would drive political talk radio off the dial. If a station ran a big-audience conservative program like, say, Laura Ingraham's, it would also have to run a left-leaning alternative. But liberals don't do well on talk radio, as the failure of Air America and indeed all other liberal efforts in the medium to date show. Stations would likely trim back conservative shows so as to avoid airing unsuccessful liberal ones.
mark this one down my friend. If the libs bring back the fairness doctrine, i will be part of a large group of Americans that march on washinton to register my objection.
THAT you can count on even if I have to go in the hole to make it happen.
the fairness doctrine and what the dems are going to do vis a vis Unions and the removal of the right to a secret ballot arent marxist, they are stalinist tactics at best.
it is reprehensible that these things would even be considered in America.
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