Right wing wacko's? Are you unaware that the people who post here are also your brothers and sisters in Christ?
What exactly are you referring to? Links/sources, if you don't mind.
Thank you.
"Light" is speaking to us like we're a bunch of contemptible heathens.
People seem to forget their Christianity around here sometimes.
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
The Bush (Ferds favorite prez.) is installing socialism and none of you right wingers are saying a word.
Your old boy Mr. McCan'tremember is signing on to this march to socialism but I don't hear you right wingers saying a word about this march to socialism.
You talk about people that speak with forked tongues the REPUBLICANS have mastered " man who speak with forked tongue". Oh yea "woman who speak with forked tongue"
Real conservatives have said it is financial socialism ... but this is one of many bailouts we've seen recently ....
I realize this bailout is another big step toward socialism (we're already quite a way down that slippery slope) but I'm not smart enough to come up with an alternate plan. I don't understand a lot of this stuff but it seems that many of the "experts" think we have to do something, even if it is this distasteful.
I agree Sam. This whole deal isn't enjoyable and it's a sad day in this country, but what else is anyone proposing?
When sound companies like Caterpillar and McDonalds are having trouble finding capital in the credit market, it's serious. It's not like this is as easy as telling Wall Street to take a hike and let come what may. That would be a great solution and I hope the bill nails the greedy CEO's and risk takers, but you can't allow credit markets to freeze and bring down the decent companies as well.
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The Bush (Ferds favorite prez.) is installing socialism and none of you right wingers are saying a word.
Your old boy Mr. McCan'tremember is signing on to this march to socialism but I don't hear you right wingers saying a word about this march to socialism.
You talk about people that speak with forked tongues the REPUBLICANS have mastered " man who speak with forked tongue". Oh yea "woman who speak with forked tongue"
Light, before you nail me to this, how about you do a search for my posts on the subject?
I have stated repeatedly that the Paulson plan (GWB's plan) was BAAAAD.
I believe my plan was to get
Newt Gingrich, Paul Volker, and the ghost of Milton Freedman in a room and let them come up with a plan....
And anyone who has been around here and seen me post on the subject knows that Uncle Ronnie (with hand over heart) is my favorite president.
Although I will admit that GWB was a better option than either Gore or Kerry....
I will admit to that... I believed it then and I think I will stick with that acessment now!
but I love ya dude!
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Are you saying that I don't? Ask someone that knows before you accuse . Ask a republican friend of mine, Baron
Its apparent we dont have to ask... and btw you have proved yourself to be a wacko so I guess if the shoe fits.. oh and you have friends?! I didnt think most around here liked to hang out in the dark and that is definitely what you are!
I realize this bailout is another big step toward socialism (we're already quite a way down that slippery slope) but I'm not smart enough to come up with an alternate plan. I don't understand a lot of this stuff but it seems that many of the "experts" think we have to do something, even if it is this distasteful. I think we feel "trapped" into going along with this package whether we agree with it or not. At least (if I understand this correctly) the Republicans did get a big gift to acorn (a phony organization to produce "votes" for the Daley Chicago machine) removed from it. None of us know how much other graft, corruption, giveaways, etc. are included in this thing for the "friends" and pac (payoff and corruption) buddies of the Senators and Representatives.
Maybe the person who said that our government officials should be limited to serve two terms only and then be executed was not so far wrong.
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Pentecostal in experience
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Inter-denominational in fellowship
Hi Pals, I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We Deserve It Dividend.
To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up.
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It Dividend.
Of course, it would NOT be tax free. So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes. That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket. A husband and wife has $595,000.00.
What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage? Housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans? What a great boost to new grads.
Put away money for college?Save in a bank create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car, create jobs, invest in the market capital drives growth.
Pay for your parent's medical insurance? Health care improves.
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean or else.
Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.
If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( 'vote buy') economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.
If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!
As for AIG liquidate it.
Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General.
Sell off the real estate.
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.
Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.
How do you spell Economic Boom?
I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC .
And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
Kindest personal regards,
Birk
T. J. Birkenmeier,
A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic
Obama would have been in support of the plan that Barny Frank and Chris Dodd came up with that included putting Union members on a board to regulate how the 700 billion dollars was spent and would have given billions to ACORN a community organizing group that Obama worked with that has been pegged for voter fraud about a half dozen times or more.
This bill strips that out junk out. So I am with Mccain on that.
This bill cuts the amount of funding to 250 billion first, with another 100 Billon later, and any more for purchasing of assets would require additional congressional action.
It also creates a framework for an insurance plan that Wall Street will have to pay for themselves. So this plan is about have the wrong headed plan that GWB asked for, is even better than the terms the democrats wanted.
It is still NOT a freemarket plan that requires the banks that got us into this mess to pay for getting us out of this mess, but is a lot better than the alternatives. a
ALSO as Pete Sessions said today, NOT doing this plan, would end with the democrats passing their plan which would have been far worse.
so in the end we get a compromise bill with some freemarket solutions and some taxpayer protections instead of a bill that would have been pure socialist take over of the financial markets.
Good guys: Jeb Hinserling and a host of republicans in the House, supported by John McCain.
Bad guys: some Senate Republicans, George Bush, Henry Paulson, and ALL of the democrats including Barak Obama.
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Hi Pals, I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We Deserve It Dividend.
To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up.
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It Dividend.
Of course, it would NOT be tax free. So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes. That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket. A husband and wife has $595,000.00.
What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage? Housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans? What a great boost to new grads.
Put away money for college?Save in a bank create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car, create jobs, invest in the market capital drives growth.
Pay for your parent's medical insurance? Health care improves.
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean or else.
Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.
If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( 'vote buy') economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.
If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!
As for AIG liquidate it.
Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General.
Sell off the real estate.
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.
Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.
How do you spell Economic Boom?
I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC .
And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
Kindest personal regards,
Birk
T. J. Birkenmeier,
A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic
Hey George, you need to do the math there.... Its off by 3 zeros...
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