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09-15-2008, 02:49 PM
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Re: A New Trend for Baptisms?
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
They then left to go behind the stage to be baptized while the congregation and choir were singing There was no mic, so you couldn't hear what the preacher was saying. After each person went under water, the congregation would cheer and clap while singing the song.
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I am not familiar with this song "There was no mic" that you say the choir was singing. Can you post the lyrics?
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09-15-2008, 03:09 PM
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Re: A New Trend for Baptisms?
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This past Sunday at the 2nd service of Christ Church, we had 7 new baptisms.
Instead of the normal one-at-a-time going through the whole baptismal process, they brought the 7 up front in their baptismal robes. They were introduced to the congregation and answered the questions as a group about their understanding of God and the baptismal process and what it was for. They all answered "Yes" to the questions presented to them.
They then left to go behind the stage to be baptized while the congregation and choir were singing. There was no mic, so you couldn't hear what the preacher was saying. After each person went under water, the congregation would cheer and clap while singing the song.
I know the preacher very well that was doing the baptizing, so I know that they were all baptized in Jesus name.
Is it important that we, as a congregation, know exactly what is being said at baptism?
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This reminds me of an interesting conversation I had with a prince of a guy out somewhere in Tennesee...
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09-15-2008, 03:09 PM
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Re: A New Trend for Baptisms?
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I am not familiar with this song "There was no mic" that you say the choir was singing. Can you post the lyrics?
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I can tell you that it WASN'T a pentecostal song, their favorite song is, "There's Gotta be a Mic for God to Move".
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09-15-2008, 03:20 PM
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Re: A New Trend for Baptisms?
I have seen lots of baptisms in state side churches going on while choirs were singing or even during the alter service. I don´t think has to be a pattern that we use for every baptismal service.
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09-15-2008, 03:22 PM
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Re: A New Trend for Baptisms?
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
This past Sunday at the 2nd service of Christ Church, we had 7 new baptisms.
Instead of the normal one-at-a-time going through the whole baptismal process, they brought the 7 up front in their baptismal robes. They were introduced to the congregation and answered the questions as a group about their understanding of God and the baptismal process and what it was for. They all answered "Yes" to the questions presented to them.
They then left to go behind the stage to be baptized while the congregation and choir were singing. There was no mic, so you couldn't hear what the preacher was saying. After each person went under water, the congregation would cheer and clap while singing the song.
I know the preacher very well that was doing the baptizing, so I know that they were all baptized in Jesus name.
Is it important that we, as a congregation, know exactly what is being said at baptism?
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I would say that it is not important for us to hear, nor is it important what the preacher says. What is important is what the person being baptized proclaims and believes.
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09-15-2008, 03:22 PM
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Re: A New Trend for Baptisms?
I want scripture and verse! Scripture and verse! If it aint in the book of acts it aint apostolic, bless god!!
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09-15-2008, 05:31 PM
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Re: A New Trend for Baptisms?
Upon the confession of your faith in Jesus Christ our Lord, I now baptize you, Pianoman, in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins (dunk)
The entire congregation should hear the "spoken" (..In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.)
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09-15-2008, 08:11 PM
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Re: A New Trend for Baptisms?
Our baptistry is in another room right now, because we had to move it for platform space, but anyone is welcome to go watch the baptisms after the services. We take pictures and once a month show a video of the baptism pics to the congregation.
I did just hear of an ex-UPC church though whose pastor left and the new guy does NOT baptize in Jesus' name, so I do think it's important to know what the pastors say.
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09-15-2008, 08:15 PM
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Re: A New Trend for Baptisms?
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Originally Posted by Sherri
Our baptistry is in another room right now, because we had to move it for platform space, but anyone is welcome to go watch the baptisms after the services. We take pictures and once a month show a video of the baptism pics to the congregation.
I did just hear of an ex-UPC church though whose pastor left and the new guy does NOT baptize in Jesus' name, so I do think it's important to know what the pastors say.
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Thank you. My problem with not hearing what is said at CC they already teach it privately with very little or nothing being said about baptism in Jesus Name and now this next step. I think it should concern those there who still believe in Jesus Name baptism.
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09-15-2008, 08:22 PM
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Re: A New Trend for Baptisms?
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Thank you. My problem with not hearing what is said at CC they already teach it privately with very little or nothing being said about baptism in Jesus Name and now this next step. I think it should concern those there who still believe in Jesus Name baptism.
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As long as Bro. Hardwick is in the picture at all, they WILL baptize in Jesus' name. I'm sure of that.
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