Obama abortion ad

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Wow...you really have no ability to address the fact that Obama is the one that said these things.

Obama's wrong. McCain isn't going to take away a woman's right to choose. Obama 2008 is manipulating the paranoid prochoice women of our country.

This issue is nothing but pure manipulation on both sides.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Obama's wrong. McCain isn't going to take away a woman's right to choose. Obama 2008 is manipulating the paranoid prochoice women of our country.

This issue is nothing but pure manipulation on both sides.

exactly what is it that McCain and the Republicans are manipulating in this ad?

[Aquila]

Ferd I know complexity isn't your strong suit. But you have Republicans pointing out Obama's add as being false .... and you have Republicans pointing out that McCain's Prolife and we must vote for him to advance the cause of life. Republicans are just talking out of both sides of their mouths.

Now...the Democrats aren't much better. They're trying to manipulate and mobilize the prochoice folks by scaring them into believing McCain is going to take away their right to choose.

The whole issue is pure stupidity and manipulation. We need to put this petty bickering behind us and look at social policies that will help women in crisis pregnancies and promote efforts to prevent pregnancy such as teaching the benefits of abstinance AND the use of contraception. I'm tired of hearing about it. They need to....GET SOMETHING DONE!!!!!!!!!!!! Pass policies aimed at reducing the abortion rate TODAY!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Ferd I know complexity isn't your strong suit. But you have Republicans pointing out Obama's add as being false .... and you have Republicans pointing out that McCain's Prolife and we must vote for him to advance the cause of life. Republicans are just talking out of both sides of their mouths.

Now...the Democrats aren't much better. They're trying to manipulate and mobilize the prochoice folks by scaring them into believing McCain is going to take away their right to choose.

The whole issue is pure stupidity and manipulation. We need to put this petty bickering behind us and look at social policies that will help women in crisis pregnancies and promote efforts to prevent pregnancy such as teaching the benefits of abstinance AND the use of contraception. I'm tired of hearing about it. They need to....GET SOMETHING DONE!!!!!!!!!!!! Pass policies aimed at reducing the abortion rate TODAY!

does anyone else see the irony in these two statements?

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Ferd I know complexity isn't your strong suit. But you have Republicans pointing out Obama's add as being false .... and you have Republicans pointing out that McCain's Prolife and we must vote for him to advance the cause of life. Republicans are just talking out of both sides of their mouths.

Now...the Democrats aren't much better. They're trying to manipulate and mobilize the prochoice folks by scaring them into believing McCain is going to take away their right to choose.

The whole issue is pure stupidity and manipulation. We need to put this petty bickering behind us and look at social policies that will help women in crisis pregnancies and promote efforts to prevent pregnancy such as abstinance AND the use of contraception. I'm tired of hearing about it. They need to....GET SOMETHING DONE!!!!!!!!!!!! Pass policies aimed at reducing the abortion rate TODAY!

Your boy Obama sure has a strange way of promoting the idea of less abortions. Wasn't that him? He wants less abortions but he makes providing abortion as a form of birth control one of his platforms.

Vote Obama he is a liar - kinda has a ring to it.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Your boy Obama sure has a strange way of promoting the idea of less abortions. Wasn't that him? He wants less abortions but he makes providing abortion as a form of birth control one of his platforms.

Vote Obama he is a liar - kinda has a ring to it.

one thing where Obama didnt lie was when he waxed poetic about schools giving his girls condoms. he said he didnt want them punished with a baby.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Your boy Obama sure has a strange way of promoting the idea of less abortions. Wasn't that him? He wants less abortions but he makes providing abortion as a form of birth control one of his platforms.

Vote Obama he is a liar - kinda has a ring to it.

Obama just wants it to be legal. Yes, that means some women might abuse that choice. But what that means to me personally as a voter is that if my wife faces a crisis pregnancy where her health or life is in danger, that painful choice would be ours to make. Not the governments.

If anyone tells you that banning abortion or even putting restrictions on abortions will have a significant impact on abortion’s occurrence they’re stupid. Muslim countries in the Middle East and Catholic Countries in South America have had some of the strongest laws against abortion and their abortion rates were still sky high (based on maternal morbidity so actual numbers are even higher). In Westernized countries abortion’s legality has had virtually no impact on abortion rates. However, there are exceptions where social policies aimed at reducing abortion have been implemented. Countries such as Belgium have passed social policies that actually help women facing crisis pregnancies thereby helping and encouraging them to choose life. In addition a strong agenda teaching the benefits of both abstinence and the use of contraceptives for those who are active have also aided in the decrease of abortion’s occurrence. Today Belgium has the LOWEST abortion rate on earth….and please note that abortion is still legal in Belgium.

Banning abortion just sweeps it under the rug without any of us having to put money into solid programs and initiatives that will save lives. Most political conservatives oppose programs that would actually save lives because after all is said and done all they care about is their money.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Ferd

one thing where Obama didnt lie was when he waxed poetic about schools giving his girls condoms. he said he didnt want them punished with a baby.

He's right. It's not the government's job to force a woman to give birth in effort to some how punish her for her improper behaviors, wrong though they may be. Society, including Government, should reach out with programs, efforts, and initiatives to help her and encourage her to choose life and raise her children. She's made a mistake, and too many prolife people want to force her to give birth and abandon her by cutting her WIC, health insurance, etc.... just to make an example out of her.

[rgcraig]

I was reprimanded yesterday because I said "I can't believe a Christian would believe abortion is okay."

One of my young employees was hurt that I said that.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Obama just wants it to be legal. Yes, that means some women might abuse that choice. But what that means to me personally as a voter is that if my wife faces a crisis pregnancy where her health or life is in danger, that painful choice would be ours to make. Not the governments.

If anyone tells you that banning abortion or even putting restrictions on abortions will have a significant impact on abortion’s occurrence they’re stupid. Muslim countries in the Middle East and Catholic Countries in South America have had some of the strongest laws against abortion and their abortion rates were still sky high (based on maternal morbidity so actual numbers are even higher). In Westernized countries abortion’s legality has had virtually no impact on abortion rates. However, there are exceptions where social policies aimed at reducing abortion have been implemented. Countries such as Belgium have passed social policies that actually help women facing crisis pregnancies thereby helping and encouraging them to choose life. In addition a strong agenda teaching the benefits of both abstinence and the use of contraceptives for those who are active have also aided in the decrease of abortion’s occurrence. Today Belgium has the LOWEST abortion rate on earth….and please note that abortion is still legal in Belgium.

Banning abortion just sweeps it under the rug without any of us having to put money into solid programs and initiatives that will save lives. Most political conservatives oppose programs that would actually save lives because after all is said and done all they care about is their money.

A crisis pregnancy where life and death of the mother is an issue is a medical decision - not an abortion. If your wife was in a pregnancy crisis she would go to a hospital - not an abortion clinic.