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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
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Originally Posted by ReformedDave
Truthfully there is not much different between Oprah and Osteen...except his hair is better.
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lol. However I don't know that Osteen has ever said that Christianity is NOT the only way to God...has he? Is Osteen really a New Ager?
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08-03-2008, 04:28 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
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Tv shows are edited. You don't know what is said when the tv cameras go off. I went to one of his meetings in Cleveland. I can attest he brings salvation into the picture. Do you think Osteen has his sermon down to 28 minutes and 30 seconds? Don't think so. He always ends his broadcast with an invitation for salvation. People are responding to the gospel on a regular basis at his church. What we see on tv is just a tip of the iceberg.
By the way he lives in a multi million dollar house. I wonder how many poor mexicans he exploited with a prosperity message to build that house.
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he exploits poor mexicans? Wow. I think he exploited naive white folks.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-03-2008, 04:30 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
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While I'm not a fan at all of JO just because he has money doesn't mean he exploits anyone. He may or may not. I don't know.
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As I pointed out and TV through his bloodshot eyes and all the rage filled spit coming out of his mouth missed is that I actually praised Osteen for living off of his books and not taking money from the church during construction. People like TV can't have objective discussions. Sad
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-03-2008, 04:49 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
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lol. However I don't know that Osteen has ever said that Christianity is NOT the only way to God...has he? Is Osteen really a New Ager?
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I wouldnt say he's a new ager... but on the issue of "is Christianity the only way to God", note this part of the article: While Osteen’s message wins over the moderate masses, he has become anathema to more-traditional Southern Baptists. His appearance on Larry King Live in 2005, during which he waffled as to whether heaven was barred to Jews, Muslims, and atheists, was posted on YouTube as proof that Osteen doesn’t embrace the Gospel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfwYU2pmWYQ
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08-03-2008, 04:56 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
...Not to mention Osteen's beliefs regarding Mormonism...
I'm not sure if this reflects just shocking ignorance, or a shocking spirit of compromise, or both:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFcVL...eature=related
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08-03-2008, 04:57 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
tell the millionaires in his congregation he is naive. His spanish congregation is larger than the largest oneness church.
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he exploits poor mexicans? Wow. I think he exploited naive white folks.
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08-03-2008, 04:58 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
Why bring it up when I agree?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
As I pointed out and TV through his bloodshot eyes and all the rage filled spit coming out of his mouth missed is that I actually praised Osteen for living off of his books and not taking money from the church during construction. People like TV can't have objective discussions. Sad
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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08-03-2008, 05:09 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
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Originally Posted by tv1a
tell the millionaires in his congregation he is naive. His spanish congregation is larger than the largest oneness church.
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I seriously doubt that.
America's largest Oneness church (Apostolic Church of God, in Chicago) has over 20,000 members.
http://www.acog-chicago.org/
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08-03-2008, 05:25 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
I wouldnt say he's a new ager... but on the issue of "is Christianity the only way to God", note this part of the article: While Osteen’s message wins over the moderate masses, he has become anathema to more-traditional Southern Baptists. His appearance on Larry King Live in 2005, during which he waffled as to whether heaven was barred to Jews, Muslims, and atheists, was posted on YouTube as proof that Osteen doesn’t embrace the Gospel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfwYU2pmWYQ
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I remember that
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-03-2008, 05:27 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
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tell the millionaires in his congregation he is naive. His spanish congregation is larger than the largest oneness church.
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Ok...go invite them here so I can tell them they are naive. LOL...someone go read my points on how we rate success. TV here is a perfect example to bring up numbers as though that some how signals God's stamp of approval on Joel...in fact it's the carnal man's stamp of approval. The world judges approval by numbers and wealth and have disdain for the poor. That is bible.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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