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07-26-2008, 09:56 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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I am not Daniel, but I would say that Bishop Haywood was a man when, he saw what was in the Bible about the correct mode of baptism, he obeyed it, and then brought his congregation into the same obedience. The fact remains that baptism is not salvational, because in order to do so would imply a man-made element outside the Cross to administer what the Cross gives biblically by faith.
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Why would he rebaptize them if it meant nothing?
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07-26-2008, 09:59 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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The powers that be would cite the passage in the Bible where Timothy was circumcised for the sake of ministering to those whom that was important to.
Using that passage and the "follow peace with all men" scripture, they would insist that he shaved before preaching at GC.
That's what I think would happen, JMHO.
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Yes, and what would happen if he didn't shave? lol
A tribunal would convene.
The fact is, facial hair wasn't a problem until the late sixties, early seventies.
So much for THAT "precious truth."
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07-26-2008, 09:59 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Do you think the WPF or UPC would allow him to preach a conference message?
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I think Bro Haney would I kinda doubt WPF would??
most of the very conservative churches would probably
ask him to shave first. I personally PAW preachers who
have been invited to minister in UPC churches but first
asked to come "clean shaven". I know one who would
do it too.
There are some though, that think it's okay for them
but not for the white boys  I am really serious
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07-26-2008, 09:59 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Yes, that is true for me too but some of them sort of gave a wink and
nod to the Blacks
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The Blacks weren't given a wink and a nod in the UPCI churches I attended or fellowshipped with in NC, FL, WV, MD, AL (in AL I was the Black). 
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07-26-2008, 10:00 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by StMark
I think Bro Haney would I kinda doubt WPF would??
most of the very conservative churches would probably
ask him to shave first. I personally PAW preachers who
have been invited to minister in UPC churches but first
asked to come "clean shaven". I know one who would
do it too.
There are some though, that think it's okay for them
but not for the white boys I am really serious |
Well, I mean...hey...if it's a sin shouldn't it be a sin for all of us to have one?
I mean in the interest of equality and all.
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07-26-2008, 10:02 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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I think Bro Haney would I kinda doubt WPF would??
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They would run Elder Haney out of office if he allowed that!
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07-26-2008, 10:04 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
Didn't Norman Wagoner spoeak at POA years ago with facial hair?
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
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"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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07-26-2008, 10:05 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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They would run Elder Haney out of office if he allowed that!
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I seriously doubt that. I think if it were put to a vote the majority would be OK with facial hair.
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07-26-2008, 10:05 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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I thought facial hair was one of the "old paths?"
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Have you been considering growing a mustache or goatee? 
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07-26-2008, 10:06 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by 1399
The Blacks weren't given a wink and a nod in the UPCI churches I attended or fellowshipped with in NC, FL, WV, MD, AL (in AL I was the Black). |
some do though. I am dead serious when i tell you this,
there is a dist Supt. in one state that allowed his black men
to have facial hair but the whites could not. His feeling was
that we as whites had no business stripping the black man
any further of his culture and manhood.
I'm just telling ya'll what I was told when I asked.
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