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07-18-2008, 12:15 PM
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Re: False Brethren in our ranks w/ another gospel?
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Yes, they're of the liberal and one-step persuasion.
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07-18-2008, 01:31 PM
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Re: False Brethren in our ranks w/ another gospel?
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In reading Galatians 1 and2 this week ... I am fascinated w/ Paul's response to the Judaizers of his day that sought to pervert the gospel by their works and traditions
Galatians 1:
Galatians 2 reads:
Are there false brethren among us today that have infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ and make us slaves?
If so, Do they preach another gospel?
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So Dan what is Freedom? Can one be FREE to commit murder? all things are lawful! hmmmmm Yeah, Sure it might not be beneficial to have done it but he was ticking me off! LOL!
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07-18-2008, 01:34 PM
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Re: False Brethren in our ranks w/ another gospel?
As I pointed out in another thread you can't sit and say well people that SIN showed they where never Chrisitans and sit and say all things are lawful. ala "Well you can do it but if you do you really never where saved" or "If you get caught up in the flesh after you where saved you where never really a Chrisitian."
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07-18-2008, 02:07 PM
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Re: False Brethren in our ranks w/ another gospel?
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As I pointed out in another thread you can't sit and say well people that SIN showed they where never Chrisitans and sit and say all things are lawful. ala "Well you can do it but if you do you really never where saved" or "If you get caught up in the flesh after you where saved you where never really a Chrisitian."
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Really? These were men who obeyed the commandments and lived "upright" lives, Luke. See Acts 15.
I didn't address freedoms, the Apostle Paul did.
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07-18-2008, 02:08 PM
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Re: False Brethren in our ranks w/ another gospel?
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Yes.
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Care to elaborate.
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07-18-2008, 02:09 PM
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Re: False Brethren in our ranks w/ another gospel?
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Yes, they're of the liberal and one-step persuasion.
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More contempt for those washed in the blood of the Lamb.
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07-18-2008, 02:17 PM
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Re: False Brethren in our ranks w/ another gospel?
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Yes, they're of the liberal and one-step persuasion.
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Well to those who have taken the time to read the book of Galatians they will realize that these Christians were turning back to the law, by doing so they were trying to add to the salvation that was purchased. It could never be a one stepper that Paul had in mind because the problem was adding to, not taking away from the Gospel.
Adding conditions to what Christ has done is the problem, not freedom. And it is sad that when you say something like this you have to add a disclaimer or some idiot will ask if it’s ok to murder and commit adultery. So if your tempted to ask such a question don’t or I might change my mind and think murder is ok too.
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07-18-2008, 02:19 PM
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Re: False Brethren in our ranks w/ another gospel?
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Well to those who have taken the time to read the book of Galatians they will realize that these Christians were turning back to the law, by doing so they were trying to add to the salvation that was purchased. It could never be a one stepper that Paul had in mind because the problem was adding to, not taking away from the Gospel.
Adding conditions to what Christ has done is the problem, not freedom. And it is sad that when you say something like this you have to add a disclaimer or some idiot will ask if it’s ok to murder and commit adultery. So if your tempted to ask such a question don’t or I might change my mind and think murder is ok too.
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Well, well ... continue reading the thread ... you might be surprised.
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07-18-2008, 02:23 PM
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Re: False Brethren in our ranks w/ another gospel?
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Well to those who have taken the time to read the book of Galatians they will realize that these Christians were turning back to the law, by doing so they were trying to add to the salvation that was purchased. It could never be a one stepper that Paul had in mind because the problem was adding to, not taking away from the Gospel.
Adding conditions to what Christ has done is the problem, not freedom. And it is sad that when you say something like this you have to add a disclaimer or some idiot will ask if it’s ok to murder and commit adultery. So if your tempted to ask such a question don’t or I might change my mind and think murder is ok too.
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Baron, it's funny how two people can read the same scriptures and see what's going on in them differently. I see what was going on with the Galatians as along the lines that they started to believe they could be saved by following the law, rather than maintaining their confidence in Christ's ability to save. That's what I believe Paul was admonishing them over.
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07-18-2008, 02:27 PM
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Re: False Brethren in our ranks w/ another gospel?
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Baron, it's funny how two people can read the same scriptures and see what's going on in them differently. I see what was going on with the Galatians as along the lines that they started to believe they could be saved by following the law, rather than maintaining their confidence in Christ's ability to save. That's what I believe Paul was admonishing them over.
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What is it you see differently? They were returning to the law as a way to be saved. Paul explains to them you can't add to what Christ has done. The law has served its purpose. So the issue is adding to with works of the law, not taking away.
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