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View Poll Results: Do you believe in the old time "shouting"??
YES, BRING IT ON!!!! 53 81.54%
NO, ITS OUT OF ORDER!!!! 5 7.69%
I AM NOT SURE. 7 10.77%
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:14 PM
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I seem to remember David dancing and praising God to the point his wife was ashamed of him. I doubt that was a little 2 step dance.

I'm not a real demonstrative person myself, but I've cut a rug a time or 2. I've probably done everything that you think is out of order and I know I have sure felt better afterwards.
Actually it would be what we consider a two step.. it was not uncontrollable dancing as we see in Pentecostal churches... the word DANCE used with David is the original word CHOREO... which we derive Chorepgraphed from.... all Jewish Dancing is in the form of either circle dancing or very controlled celebratory dance.. He danced according to his Jewish Custom... there was nothing out of control......
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:15 PM
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To everything under there sun,,,, there is a purpose..... please explain to us the PURPOSE of shouting.
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:18 PM
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To everything under there sun,,,, there is a purpose..... please explain to us the PURPOSE of shouting.
To give you something to be against?
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:19 PM
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To everything under there sun,,,, there is a purpose..... please explain to us the PURPOSE of shouting.
Ask God, he is the one that causes it.
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:20 PM
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Actually it would be what we consider a two step.. it was not uncontrollable dancing as we see in Pentecostal churches... the word DANCE used with David is the original word CHOREO... which we derive Chorepgraphed from.... all Jewish Dancing is in the form of either circle dancing or very controlled celebratory dance.. He danced according to his Jewish Custom... there was nothing out of control......
Since you like to try to explain away everything Old Time Pentecostal, please explain why his wife was so upset if he was just dancing a "very controlled celebratory dance."
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:24 PM
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Actually it would be what we consider a two step.. it was not uncontrollable dancing as we see in Pentecostal churches... the word DANCE used with David is the original word CHOREO... which we derive Chorepgraphed from.... all Jewish Dancing is in the form of either circle dancing or very controlled celebratory dance.. He danced according to his Jewish Custom... there was nothing out of control......
Actually, the Hebrew word used was:




karar (kä·rar')

1) (Pilpel) to whirl, dance

a) whirling, dancing (participle)


So the scripture suggests that David spun around with all he had in him. Kind of like a spinning top. Of course he didn't have the Holy Ghost either.
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:27 PM
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Actually, the Hebrew word used was:




karar (kä·rar')

1) (Pilpel) to whirl, dance

a) whirling, dancing (participle)


So the scripture suggests that David spun around with all he had in him. Kind of like a spinning top. Of course he didn't have the Holy Ghost either.
U mean David did the "helicopter" thing? KEWL!! I didn't know that!
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:28 PM
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Since you like to try to explain away everything Old Time Pentecostal, please explain why his wife was so upset if he was just dancing a "very controlled celebratory dance."
WYOPASTOR..... his wife was not upset because he was dancing... dancing was a common and still is a common custom among Jewish people... she was upset because he ABASED HIMSELF and shed his ROYAL ROBES and made himself common among the people

II Sam 6:20 puts it all in perspective.. the Pentecostals would be well served to read these verses before trying to use something that DID NOT HAPPEN to justify the emotionalism of Pentecost...

NOW BROTHER, after reading the following verse.. you tell me .... was she mad because he danced or because he removed his ROYAL ROBES?

II SAM 6:20 - Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!

You simply hear the voice of a JEALOUS WIFE because the handmaids saw David in basically his common garments...... she was not upset because he was dancing before the Lord but rather because he disrobed himself... all the way down to his linen ephod..... rather than portraying himself in his royal garments...
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U mean David did the "helicopter" thing? KEWL!! I didn't know that!
That is what the verse below implies.


2Sa 6:14 And David danced before the LORD with all [his] might; and David [was] girded with a linen ephod.
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?

I ought to post some shouting vids from our church. That would probably let you know where I stand on the issue.
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