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Old 07-11-2008, 01:13 PM
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Holiness includes flesh and spirit thus every aspect of our lives so yes standards are part and parcel of holiness.
what do you mean by holiness of the flesh?
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Will it also shock you to say that I struggle with my attitude some days?

I have a long way to go to be like Jesus!
I struggle with this daily. I am constantly getting "irked" by strangers or feel "let down" by friends only to have the Lord (constantly) telling me how much WORSE I am then the person I am angry at or reminding me about how I "let down" others.

Unfortunately "love" seems to be an issue that "charismatics" preach far more than apostolics. Again, when was the last time a fiery preacher rode into town and belted out a sermon about "love" which had people running the isles? It is far more likely to happen when preaching hair, dress length, or make up...... Because those are things which have a tangible quality to them, meaning you can DO something and feel more saved as a result -and still get irked by your jerk of a neighbor.
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I have standards, but in my Church it isn't preached, but taught, and even then not often.

You will have a greater chance on hearing preached about Christian living and attitude than anything else.
This is how my church is as well. When my pastor was preaching a couple of Sunday nights ago he referenced some of the standards our church goes by, but he was talking about why we draw some of the lines that we do.

It was a very rare instance for those things to be discussed outside of ministry guidelines or special classes. Christian attitudes and living are definitely the meat and potatoes of what gets preached and taught at our church.

In our Wed. night Bible study we just finished up a 4 week series on forgiveness that was very powerful.
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what do you mean by holiness of the flesh?
2Cor. 7:1.
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This is how my church is as well. When my pastor was preaching a couple of Sunday nights ago he referenced some of the standards our church goes by, but he was talking about why we draw some of the lines that we do.

It was a very rare instance for those things to be discussed outside of ministry guidelines or special classes. Christian attitudes and living are definitely the meat and potatoes of what gets preached and taught at our church.

In our Wed. night Bible study we just finished up a 4 week series on forgiveness that was very powerful.
Have y'all gone Charismatic? He should be preaching the standards at least once a week.
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:17 PM
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This is how my church is as well. When my pastor was preaching a couple of Sunday nights ago he referenced some of the standards our church goes by, but he was talking about why we draw some of the lines that we do.

It was a very rare instance for those things to be discussed outside of ministry guidelines or special classes. Christian attitudes and living are definitely the meat and potatoes of what gets preached and taught at our church.

In our Wed. night Bible study we just finished up a 4 week series on forgiveness that was very powerful.
Right we did the same thing as well.
It was on forgiveness as well.
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Right we did the same thing as well.
It was on forgiveness as well.
Wait, do we go to the same church???
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Wait, do we go to the same church???
Is you a part of the Apostolic Church established by God on the day of Pentecost?


If so, then yep we are a part of the same Church!
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