The Dress Code Wars

[Pro31:28]

Is elbow-lust a big problem for men, requiring a 3/4 length sleeve?
I have heard that new Victoria's Secret catalog will be featuring the "Miracle Elbow" it comes free with the "Knee Thong"

[DanielR]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

Long sleeves (3/4 ok.) Dress.. well past the knee, when sitting. No slits.

Modesty matters. And I know modestly dressed people can be devils. But Godly people will always be modest.

I can't bite into that, because I know better. If that statement was refering to 1st century definition of the word I would agree. However, I know your using a 21st centrury definition which changes the meaning dramaticly. When understanding the Bible, if your not also a student of the culture to which it is written then your understanding of the true meaning of what is written is also skewd.

Let me show you one example of 1st century culture throughout the Roman Empire which Paul wrote to. In every (or at least most) major city in the Roman empire, including Jeruselem, there was a gymnasium (which translated means nude exercise) these were major complexes comprising of several acres with the center area as large as a few football fields. It is my understanding that these started out as men only but progressed to coed somewhere around the first century. I haven't been able to get a firm date (within a hundred year time frame) when this happened so for the sake of argument we will assume that they are still men only for this discussion. As we all know, (or should if we remember our history at all) the the Olympics were also done in the nude, because to compete while dressed would be too combersome and problematic. This is the culture that Paul wrote to when he referenced running a race (unincumered, laying aside all that besets you and running the course) and bodily exercise being of some value. At no point did Paul, Peter, John or any other new testament writer condemn this first century custom in scripture. Because of this I can't beleive that modest in scripture means how much clothing you wear, but rather your actions and how you wear what clothing you do wear. Fast forward to the 21st century and the practices of the 1st century which are never condemned in scripture are said to be sin by those that try to force 21st understanding into a 1st century reality.

[Tim Rutledge]

Hello DanielR, Of course I disagree, with your modesty does not matter philosophy. And we probably won't get aywhere discussing it. Your Oneness Apostolic?

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by warrior

In my opinion, dress codes are only applicable because men don't have to contend with most of the foolishness. They can wear whatever they want to as long as they aren't naked and the religious world, christian or not says nothing.

This entire dress code thing even in the apostolic faith is about control and opression. I adhere to covering my body and being comfortable. That is what matters. Forget all of the rules that aren't scripture. I can't speak for the Quaran because I don't read it, but the Bible doesn't say any of the things we opress people with as far as dress codes and standards are concerned.

I agree

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Pro31:28

Is elbow-lust a big problem for men, requiring a 3/4 length sleeve?
I have heard that new Victoria's Secret catalog will be featuring the "Miracle Elbow" it comes free with the "Knee Thong"

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by warrior

Adam should have been the man God called him to be, and none of us would be in this position. We Eve at of the forbidden fruit nothing happen, but when Adam at the trouble began.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

Long sleeves (3/4 ok.) Dress.. well past the knee, when sitting. No slits.

Modesty matters. And I know modestly dressed people can be devils. But Godly people will always be modest.

God Bless Your Heart

[DanielR]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

Hello DanielR, Of course I disagree, with your modesty does not matter philosophy. And we probably won't get aywhere discussing it. Your Oneness Apostolic?

First off, that is not what I said. I was talking about the difference between how modest was defined in first century and how it is now defined in the 21st century.

But yes, I am very Oneness Apostolic, grounded in the Word of God with an understanding of the culture to which it is written. I never allowed myself to think that society has not changed over the years. Has American society remained the same of the last hundred year? Why then, should we assume that the 1st century Roman society is exactly the same as 21st century American society. The Scriptures were written for the benefit of all generations, but specifically to the people of the time period and culture of the people to which it was directly written. That said, yes I am OA, but I don't allow traditions to guide me, rather I let Scripture with a historical understanding of the times that the Scripture was written and the Holy Spirit guide my understanding.

[Tim Rutledge]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

God Bless Your Heart

I know of thousands that strongly agree with what I've posted. We've obviously had very different leadership, and teachings. Thank you for the sweet "God bless you".

[Tim Rutledge]

DanielR. Do you have a Man of God (Pastor) in your life?