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07-07-2008, 04:36 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
If smoking tobacco is an eternal sin because it defiles the body, then so is drinking soda, most fast and fried foods, NOT exercising, etc.....
Disgusting as it is, I have always wondered why smoking is singled out. (Probably because it IS disgusting and thus easy to be.)
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RW, this is the post of the day!!!!!!!!!!!
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07-07-2008, 04:38 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
physical defilement................our body is the temple.
1 Cor 6:19-20 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
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Well, if that's the case, most of us have greater issues than tobacco.
If physical defilement of the body is a sin that will destroy us, there are many in our ranks who don't stand a chance of making it to heaven.
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07-07-2008, 04:38 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
Awww...good point Randy. You've stumbled upon one of my huge pet peeves. First of all, I've never took a drag of a cigarette and don't plan on it anytime soon. The nasty habit doesn't appeal to me in the least.
However, I find it comical and absurd for a 300 pound preacher who hasn't reverenced the temple of the Holy Ghost(his body) and hasn't taken his health into consideration at lunch and dinner, to tell a congregation of people that people who inhale smoke in their lungs are in sin.
That may be the case, but the sin of glutony, of which I and a lot of others in the church are sometimes guilty, goes unpreached on?? I guess it's easy to classify sin for some of those guys.
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
1 Cor 3:16-17 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
Does destroy mean lost because tobacco products defile the temple of God.
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Lots of Apostolics not saved because of gluttony in regard to over-eating
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07-07-2008, 04:39 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
Incidentally I've always wondered the same thing about gambling and why IT is singled out. There are certainly many other things people do with their money which are equally 'unwise'.....
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Awww...good point Randy. You've stumbled upon one of my huge pet peeves. First of all, I've never took a drag of a cigarette and don't plan on it anytime soon. The nasty habit doesn't appeal to me in the least.
However, I find it comical and absurd for a 300 pound preacher who hasn't reverenced the temple of the Holy Ghost(his body) and hasn't taken his health into consideration at lunch and dinner, to tell a congregation of people that these people that take smoke from cigarette's in their body and defile it are in sin.
That may be the case, but the sin of glutony, of which I and a lot of others in the church are sometimes guilty, goes unpreached on?? I guess it's easy to classify sin for some of those guys.
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I didn't read this until I had posted but it is right on
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07-07-2008, 04:40 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
If smoking tobacco is an eternal sin because it defiles the body, then so is drinking soda, most fast and fried foods, NOT exercising, etc.....
Disgusting as it is, I have always wondered why smoking is singled out. (Probably because it IS disgusting and thus easy to be.)
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You don't think smoking defiles your body?
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To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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07-07-2008, 04:41 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
You don't think smoking defiles your body?
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Sure. So does too much soda, overeating, caffeine, processed sugar, etc.
Here's one for you - if a person is a diabetic, and their doctor has told them they need to lose weight or they'll die prematurely, and they continue to eat themselves sick, are they defiling their body?
Should they pray for healing?
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07-07-2008, 04:42 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Lots of Apostolics not saved because of gluttony in regard to over-eating
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What does Paul mean by "defile the temple"?
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
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07-07-2008, 04:42 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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I didn't read this until I had posted but it is right on
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Thanks for the Amen Sista!!
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