14Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
15But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
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Again reference to hair is made, as a lesson from nature. If a woman has long hair it beautifies her and makes her glorious. If even nature has covered a woman with natural glory, how much more should she cover herself to show submission when she prays and prophesies?
The bolded part is often refered to as proof hair IS the covering that a woman should put on when praying.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Regardless of the meaning, I am not sure that it matters in the context many use it. Because I contend it is not HAIR that is the symbol in question.
It may mean that (heavenly) angels are aware of the covering while a woman is praying or prophesying and aware of the submission to authority it represented/represents.
It may speak of "angels" in a more general sense of deity. As in, 'God sees all things'.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Regardless of the meaning, I am not sure that it matters in the context many use it. Because I contend it is not HAIR that is the symbol in question.
It may mean that (heavenly) angels are aware of the covering while when a woman is praying or prophesying and aware of the submission to authority it represented/represents.
It may speak of "angels" in a more general sense of deity. As in God sees all.
Thank you for responding, I appreciate it.
I am just interested in the views on "because of the Angels". Not a debate on hair.
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Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
I'm just saying that it is obvious that the entire passage is about head, authority, the angels, and hair specifically. I'm just looking for a concise explanation of the connection (because there has to be one).
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------------------------- Purpose of Holy Magic Hair Blog: Heretical Doctrine
"For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels." - 1 Corinthians 11:10
For years, some Christians, predominantly conservative Baptists, Methodists and Pentecostals, have asserted that the Bible teaches that a woman should not cut her hair. Most born-again Christians believe to the contrary. This debate is based on a passage in 1 Corinthians 11. There are compelling and convincing interpretations on both sides of this issue.
In recent years,however, a dangerous heretical doctrine has emerged claiming that an added reason why a woman's hair should not be cut is because it gives her power with angels citing 1 Corinthians 11:10. Proponents teach that a supernatural power and authority is bestowed by her obedience in not cutting her hair. Some claim this directly results in angelic protection, miracles,healings, special revelation, God's favor and blessing in their loves ... and even can affect one's salvation. Sadly, occult writings are offered up as substantiation for this paradigm.
This blog is an effort to uncover the untruths of this dangerous heretical doctrine that replaces Jesus and the power of God's sovereign Spirit with hair and legalism. We seek only to warn the Body of Christ of this teaching and not to undermine God's call on the lives of those who teach or believe this doctrine. Believers on both sides of the hair issue stand against this extrabiblical heresy.
We also hope to share studies on both sides of the hair issue for our readers. ----------------------------------------------------------
We invite you to read the blog articles that are forthcoming. You will be able to comment about the blogs. These comments will be heavily moderated.
We are also actively seeking bloggers who are willing to donate the talents and time to writing articles on this issue.
Bloggers must commit to not personally attacking the teachers and believers of this doctrine ... but rather help uncover the errors of this doctrine.
Articles should share biblical principles and personal insights about this doctrine in question and the hair issue in general --- by sharing the truth in love.
If you are interested in becoming a blogger for this effort please PM me.
Thank you.
Daniel,
I'm just curious as to why a blog needs to be started on this subject. I just feel like it is kind of exposing our families "dirty laundry" to the general public. They all ready think we are strange. This will just be the icing on the cake.
What if someone google searches something like "long hair do's" and all of the sudden this blog pops up.
This just seems like it needs to be dealt with a little more "privately"
I don't believe the magic hair doctrine. But I still feel loyal to the UPC.
Daniel,
I'm just curious as to why a blog needs to be started on this subject. I just feel like it is kind of exposing our families "dirty laundry" to the general public. They all ready think we are strange. This will just be the icing on the cake.
What if someone google searches something like "long hair do's" and all of the sudden this blog pops up.
This just seems like it needs to be dealt with a little more "privately"
I don't believe the magic hair doctrine. But I still feel loyal to the UPC.
Thanks for listening,
Smurfette
Smurfette,
With all due respect (and I really do mean that), I think that your posting above is part of the problem with the apostolic movement in general. There is very little transparency in the lives of believers. We have to keep our dirty little secrets just that because if anyone ever found out, we would be dis-fellowshipped.
Is it just me or does this sound cult-like?
It wasn't until we left the UPC that we understood that transparency is a far more free way to live than all the secrecy. I have a relative (in upc) that has a problem and we asked if he spoke to his pastor, and said that there was no way he could ever do that. How can he get counseling or prayer if he never talks to anyone about this?
As a movement, I think we should have some accountability, and not just to the men who pander to sermons that border on (or cross into) false doctrine.
But this is all just my opinion...
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"You will be hated for my sake-Just remember that it should be for MY sake and not YOURS-
Do NOT act in such a way as to be offensive, and then blame it on me"
Am I the only child of the late 70's who wants to finish the title of this thread with "batman"?
"Holy MagicHair Batman!!!"
~Kapow~ ~Boom~ ~Bang!!!~
If you were born after 1979, or didn't grow up in front of the TV, I apologize... To those of you who do get it
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Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.
"You will be hated for my sake-Just remember that it should be for MY sake and not YOURS-
Do NOT act in such a way as to be offensive, and then blame it on me"
If Google is what is concerning you ... just type in Apostolic, hair ... cut ... Ruth Reider ...and I guarantee the the first sites that will come up is AFF.
Google brings up AFF with ferocity ... and so I think your concern is understandable but this forum has more influence than a blogger.com site which is a needle in the haystack.
With all due respect (and I really do mean that), I think that your posting above is part of the problem with the apostolic movement in general. There is very little transparency in the lives of believers. We have to keep our dirty little secrets just that because if anyone ever found out, we would be dis-fellowshipped.
Is it just me or does this sound cult-like?
It wasn't until we left the UPC that we understood that transparency is a far more free way to live than all the secrecy. I have a relative (in upc) that has a problem and we asked if he spoke to his pastor, and said that there was no way he could ever do that. How can he get counseling or prayer if he never talks to anyone about this?
As a movement, I think we should have some accountability, and not just to the men who pander to sermons that border on (or cross into) false doctrine.
But this is all just my opinion...
I understand what you are saying. I've been out of the UPC for a couple of years now but still believe they do teach some good things. Yes, it does need more accountability. I guess you are right. Holy accountability batman!
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