|
Tab Menu 1
| The D.A.'s Office The views expressed in this forum are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of AFF or the Admin of AFF. |
 |
|
06-29-2008, 06:56 PM
|
|
Guest
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: H-Town, Texas
Posts: 18,009
|
|
|
Re: Resolution 3 Massacre Begins in South Texas Di
Maybe an online Unbecoming/Under Question Registry will need to be devised so that preachers know who they can or can not preach for??? Information sharing gone Apostolic.
|
06-29-2008, 06:57 PM
|
 |
Matthew 7:6
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 4,768
|
|
|
Re: Resolution 3 Massacre Begins in South Texas Di
Whatever happened to autonomy of the local church and pastor?
So much for that concept.
__________________
http://endtimeobserver.blogspot.com
Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
 I'm T France, and I approved this message.
|
06-29-2008, 07:00 PM
|
 |
Forever Loved Admin
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 26,537
|
|
|
Re: Resolution 3 Massacre Begins in South Texas Di
So it doesn't have to proved that a minister has done something unethical or immoral? They will still be subject to this resolution? If they withdraw or are removed from the org?
__________________
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
|
06-29-2008, 07:13 PM
|
|
Guest
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: H-Town, Texas
Posts: 18,009
|
|
|
Re: Resolution 3 Massacre Begins in South Texas Di
|
06-29-2008, 07:17 PM
|
 |
Administrator
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,829
|
|
|
Re: Resolution 3 Massacre Begins in South Texas Di
I really, really, REALLY think it should be up the local church and pastor as to who is allowed to preach for whom, and DEFINITELY who is put in as assistant pastor!
__________________
"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
|
06-29-2008, 07:27 PM
|
|
Registered User
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 8,102
|
|
|
Re: Resolution 3 Massacre Begins in South Texas Di
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
The South Texas District has moved quickly to place various ministers in the NCO and ex UPCI mega church pastor in San Antonio under question.
Various UPCI evangelists have received letters reprimanding them for preaching for various churches in the area from the South Texas District and their Supt....
Of course ... how were they to know????
This apparently was the goal of Resolution 3 when it passed at the last GC .... and we are now seeing the much talked about anticipated results ...
Some of the ministers placed under question left years ago .... btw.
I'm sure California will be moving quickly or already has places some the WPF guys under question ...
Resolution 3 was invoked in Miss. by their Supt ... last fall ... for more on this read this thread:
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ead.php?t=9164
--------------------------------------------------------------
Lastly, if you are not sure what Res. 3 states, it reads:
Whereas there has not been a clear definition of the terms "under question" and "conduct unbecoming a minister," and
Whereas there seems to be a difference in these terms,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that article VII, Section 7, Paragraph 21 is changed to read as follows:
21. No minister who withdraws or is dropped from our fellowship, whose conduct is under question, shall be allowed to preach for any of our ministers, nor pastor any of our churches. Neither shall any minister of the United Pentecostal Church International fellowship be allowed to preach or participate in any form in any services (except funerals and weddings) sponsored or conducted by any minister who has withdrawn or been dropped, whose conduct is under question. This does not apply to anyone being used in any capacity in his or her local assembly, with the exception of the position of associate pastor or assistant pastor.
(a) The term "under question" shall be taken to mean a formal decision by a District Board reflecting a concern that conduct in flagrant violation of the Manual of the United Pentecostal Church International has occurred.
(b) The term "conduct unbecoming a minister" shall be taken to mean any conduct of a moral, financial, or ethical nature that would cause a reproach upon the ministry. |
Daniel, in light of the severity of this thread, I think it is only right that you post specific names of those under question. I also think it would be wise for you to give more details.
This is very serious. It's only right that we invoke full disclosure.
|
06-29-2008, 07:28 PM
|
|
Guest
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: H-Town, Texas
Posts: 18,009
|
|
|
Re: Resolution 3 Massacre Begins in South Texas Di
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Daniel, in light of the severity of this thread, I think it is only right that you post specific names of those under question. I also think it would be wise for you to give more details.
This is very serious. It's only right that we invoke full disclosure.
|
No names will been given by me.
|
06-29-2008, 07:31 PM
|
|
Registered User
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 8,102
|
|
|
Re: Resolution 3 Massacre Begins in South Texas Di
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
No names will been given by me.
|
Then I am confused. How can you post such serious allegations without credible proof? Who received letters? Who is under question? And, most importantly, how do we know any information you have is true?
Hey, I'm not calling you a liar, and I totally trust you, but much more is needed here for us to engage in serious conversation about this.
|
06-29-2008, 07:33 PM
|
|
Registered User
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 8,102
|
|
|
Re: Resolution 3 Massacre Begins in South Texas Di
Daniel, you titled this a massacre.
How, exactly, are you using this word? How does it apply to this situation?
|
06-29-2008, 07:35 PM
|
|
Guest
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: H-Town, Texas
Posts: 18,009
|
|
|
Re: Resolution 3 Massacre Begins in South Texas Di
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Then I am confused. How can you post such serious allegations without credible proof? Who received letters? Who is under question? And, most importantly, how do we know any information you have is true?
Hey, I'm not calling you a liar, and I totally trust you, but much more is needed here for us to engage in serious conversation about this.
|
I assure you I've spoken to a source who received such a correspondence ...
I spy some pictures ... maybe you can match names to faces???
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:18 AM.
| |
Linear Mode
