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Old 06-05-2008, 12:26 PM
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Uh-oh. Some people better get busy. When is the deadline?
If Justice Thomas had his way the time would already be up.
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Old 06-05-2008, 12:27 PM
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You must live in America too. We haven't had any with merit or qualifications in a while. And it looks like we won't have after the next election either.
slim pickens sis, but we will do our best, dt
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If Justice Thomas had his way the time would already be up.
Really? Do you think Affirmative Action helped or hindered him?
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If Justice Thomas had his way the time would already be up.
i knew i liked him , anita who, i am glad those nimrods didnt keep him from the court, hey baron how was the visit with justice scalia, dt
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Old 06-05-2008, 12:29 PM
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It is just the fact that they will appoint Candidates for election based on Affirmative Action and not on thier qualities as a Candidate.
doesnt sound like democracy to me.

now as it realates to Affermitive Action, well this is an area of real conflict for me.

I dont think a person ought to be awarded a job or admission to a school based on race. it should always be based on qualification.

but when two candidates have the same qualifications, there is value in that organization insuring that their workers/students etc reflect the community they reside in.

Racism is a barrier that remains in place in American society and there needs to be a mechinism in place to work to remove it.

I dont like quota systems. I dont like giving preferential treatment to less qualified candidates, but when Affirmitive Action deals with situations where qualified minority candidates are routinely passed over for majority candidates, then I think there is a place for it.

In the case you are talking about, it clearly is a form of democracy that wouldnt fly in America.
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careful ferd you sound reasonable, you are diminishing your image, lol
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Old 06-05-2008, 12:31 PM
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Really? Do you think Affirmative Action helped or hindered him?
Justice Thomas is conflicted.

As a student, he earned recognition by is efforts, but at the same time was given access to education because of his race to some degree.


however, when he got out of school, he felt like he was hurt by the fact he is black and educated well. those who would typically hire someone of his education, felt like they were getting an Affermitive Action kid who really would not measure up.

on balance from what I have heard from him in interviews, he felt like AA was a hinderance to him.
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careful ferd you sound reasonable, you are diminishing your image, lol
LOL! this is the subject where I go from Attila the Hun to almost moderate! LOL!
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doesnt sound like democracy to me.

now as it realates to Affermitive Action, well this is an area of real conflict for me.

I dont think a person ought to be awarded a job or admission to a school based on race. it should always be based on qualification.

but when two candidates have the same qualifications, there is value in that organization insuring that their workers/students etc reflect the community they reside in.

Racism is a barrier that remains in place in American society and there needs to be a mechinism in place to work to remove it.

I dont like quota systems. I dont like giving preferential treatment to less qualified candidates, but when Affirmitive Action deals with situations where qualified minority candidates are routinely passed over for majority candidates, then I think there is a place for it.

In the case you are talking about, it clearly is a form of democracy that wouldnt fly in America.
Doesn't fly here either judging from the outcry on the callers phoning into the morning show on the Radio.
Even political commentators were saying it is a flawed process!
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Old 06-05-2008, 12:37 PM
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i knew i liked him , anita who, i am glad those nimrods didnt keep him from the court, hey baron how was the visit with justice scalia, dt
You better believe that if Barak Obama were a conservitive Anita Two would already be parading around capital hill.
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