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Re: School Prayer Banishment was a Good Thing
danny, Jesus only criticized prayer as a spectacle not real communing with god, really bro, dt
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05-28-2008, 01:19 PM
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Re: School Prayer Banishment was a Good Thing
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danny, Jesus only criticized prayer as a spectacle not real communing with god, really bro, dt
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Agreed ... just asked the question.
Yet some religious groups who insist on teacher-led prayer seem to be desiring this more as a spectacle ... a return to the good old Puritan days?
What if we taught our kids that they can pray in school in our homes ...?
The revival in spirituality in America that some are seeking will only happen in the home ... not in the school house or court house.
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05-28-2008, 01:21 PM
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Re: School Prayer Banishment was a Good Thing
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Agreed ... just asked the question.
Yet for some religious groups who insist on teacher-led prayer desiring this more as a spectacle ... a return to the good old Puritan days?
What if we taught our kids that they can pray in school in our homes ...?
The revival in spirituality in America that some will only happen in the home ... not in the school house or court house.
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agreed dan, the prob is that op is right, but did we as americans really start paying attention, dont know about that, dt
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05-28-2008, 01:24 PM
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Re: School Prayer Banishment was a Good Thing
My little girl prays in school ... prayed before her state exam ... just recently ...
The following is a blog I wrote at Synadelfos:
Without You I Can Do Nothing: My Child's Prayer and My Pricked Heart
It's been about a couple of weeks since Danah (11), my daughter, took her state exams in reading and mathematics. As is customary, while picking up the kids and driving home yesterday, I asked how school was going ... and queried if she had gotten back the results to her TAKs state tests.
In her prissy manner, she remarked innocently, "I hope I passed".
Naturally, I thought to myself "Of course, you did, Danah. You have done exceptionally well in state testing throughout your school career. Last year, you only got 2 questions wrong on your reading test and 4 wrong in math".
While dotingly patting myself and her on the back ... she proceeded to say, " I prayed before taking my test, Daddy".
Once again, thinking to myself, I said introspectively, "No surprise. I'm sure you did, Danah. I know I used to pray before the big exams".
She pressed on and interrupted my thoughts with more....
.... (and what followed from her lips would move my eyes to tears and my heart to be pricked).
" I told Jesus that it didn't matter how smart I was. It doesn't matter how simple or hard the test is - without Him I can't do anything. I told him I really needed His help. "
I paused for awhile and blurted out, "That's, uh, good mama. That's how we all should pray".
She continued sheepishly, ....
"I also prayed for everyone in the classroom. I prayed that they all would pass. We just can't think about ourselves, Daddy. We need to think about others. I know how I would feel if I failed and I don't want them to go through that."
What a lesson learned!
God, I ask you to place in me the heart of this child. A contrite and humble heart that recognizes that I can do nothing without You. A heart that does not rely on my talents, abilities, self-sufficiency but one that places his trust wholly on You.
May I love others as you have commanded. Esteeming them as superior to myself. Empathizing with them in all things. Loving them as You do.
I also don't know what I've done to deserve such grace and mercy. Your tender mercies are new every morning.
How You have continued to shelter, bless and care for my children despite them having to be tossed to and fro ... is dumbfounding. Despite, the enormous guilt I feel for them, especially Danah, having witnessed a failed marraige .... Your Word has sprouted in them. Thank You for the increase.
Danah and Aaron, you may not realize it it but you are royalty. You are children of the King.
Lastly, Lord ... without You, I Can Do Nothing ...
With You, I can do ALL THINGS and ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.
John 15:15
I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Matthew 19:26
26But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Phillipians 4:13
13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
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05-28-2008, 01:32 PM
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Re: School Prayer Banishment was a Good Thing
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
What if we taught our kids that they can pray in school in our homes ...?
The revival in spirituality in America that some will only happen in the home ... not in the school house or court house.
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Danielito,
Agreed to a point. The revival in spirituality in America will start in home, with individuals but must also happen in the school house and the courthouse, not to mention churches and marketplace.
JAG
PS Your daughter's prayer is also a sign of good parenting. ;-)
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05-28-2008, 01:35 PM
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Re: School Prayer Banishment was a Good Thing
love the prayer danny, god bless you and your little girl, i love mine too, you need to be proud, dt
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05-28-2008, 01:39 PM
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Re: School Prayer Banishment was a Good Thing
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Danielito,
Agreed to a point. The revival in spirituality in America will start in home, with individuals but must also happen in the school house and the courthouse, not to mention churches and marketplace.
JAG
PS Your daughter's prayer is also a sign of good parenting. ;-)
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Agreed it must start in our homes and it will spill over.
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05-28-2008, 02:16 PM
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Re: School Prayer Banishment was a Good Thing
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
My little girl prays in school ... prayed before her state exam ... just recently ...
The following is a blog I wrote at Synadelfos:
Without You I Can Do Nothing: My Child's Prayer and My Pricked Heart
It's been about a couple of weeks since Danah (11), my daughter, took her state exams in reading and mathematics. As is customary, while picking up the kids and driving home yesterday, I asked how school was going ... and queried if she had gotten back the results to her TAKs state tests.
In her prissy manner, she remarked innocently, "I hope I passed".
Naturally, I thought to myself "Of course, you did, Danah. You have done exceptionally well in state testing throughout your school career. Last year, you only got 2 questions wrong on your reading test and 4 wrong in math".
While dotingly patting myself and her on the back ... she proceeded to say, " I prayed before taking my test, Daddy".
Once again, thinking to myself, I said introspectively, "No surprise. I'm sure you did, Danah. I know I used to pray before the big exams".
She pressed on and interrupted my thoughts with more....
.... (and what followed from her lips would move my eyes to tears and my heart to be pricked).
" I told Jesus that it didn't matter how smart I was. It doesn't matter how simple or hard the test is - without Him I can't do anything. I told him I really needed His help. "
I paused for awhile and blurted out, "That's, uh, good mama. That's how we all should pray".
She continued sheepishly, ....
"I also prayed for everyone in the classroom. I prayed that they all would pass. We just can't think about ourselves, Daddy. We need to think about others. I know how I would feel if I failed and I don't want them to go through that."
What a lesson learned!
God, I ask you to place in me the heart of this child. A contrite and humble heart that recognizes that I can do nothing without You. A heart that does not rely on my talents, abilities, self-sufficiency but one that places his trust wholly on You.
May I love others as you have commanded. Esteeming them as superior to myself. Empathizing with them in all things. Loving them as You do.
I also don't know what I've done to deserve such grace and mercy. Your tender mercies are new every morning.
How You have continued to shelter, bless and care for my children despite them having to be tossed to and fro ... is dumbfounding. Despite, the enormous guilt I feel for them, especially Danah, having witnessed a failed marraige .... Your Word has sprouted in them. Thank You for the increase.
Danah and Aaron, you may not realize it it but you are royalty. You are children of the King.
Lastly, Lord ... without You, I Can Do Nothing ...
With You, I can do ALL THINGS and ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.
John 15:15
I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Matthew 19:26
26But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Phillipians 4:13
13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. |
What an absolutely beautiful prayer and experience...I'm excited about what this little girl is going to do with her life - one that is submitted to His Will - WOW!! I love it!!!
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05-28-2008, 03:02 PM
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Re: School Prayer Banishment was a Good Thing
If this has been addressed by someone else, pardon me, but I look at this from another point of view. If we believe that God's will is being done, scripture teaches that He has His way in the whirlwind, do we believe He allowed the decision to be no school sponsored prayer?
I, for one, am somewhat thankful the decision was made when it was. Had it not been, in this age of tolerance and all beliefs being equal, would we really want our children subjected to what might be taught?
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05-28-2008, 03:14 PM
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Re: School Prayer Banishment was a Good Thing
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
Prayer has never been banned in public school. Only teacher led prayer. Student led prayer is fine. If you think about it do you really want a teacher leading your child in prayer?
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Thank you ever so much Commander Tangent. This was not anywhere close to being the main point.
Did any of the rest of the original post cause even a glimmer of a ruffle in your gray matter? 
"Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. And most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happened." Sir Winston Churchill
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell
So, what do you think about those Prussion-style indoctrination centers?
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