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05-20-2008, 11:52 AM
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Re: Salvation for the deaf and mute?: Say it ain't
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
By virtue ... a deaf person can speak ... but my question applies to a deaf/mute ...
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Daniel, I will have to do make some phone calls but I believe that a deaf/mute was filled with the Holy Ghost and spoke out loud in an unknown tongue. Will let you know.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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05-20-2008, 11:53 AM
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Re: Salvation for the deaf and mute?: Say it ain't
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Can't they just sign in tongues??
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Um ... not possible ... I also stated in my question that said persons do not know how to sign ...
Can the baptizer still baptize the person in Jesus name ....?
Will the believer still be baptized in the Spirit if there is no "initial" evidence of speaking in tongues?
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05-20-2008, 12:17 PM
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Re: Salvation for the deaf and mute?: Say it ain't
I met a mute that spoke in tongues when the Spirit of God moved upon him.
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05-20-2008, 01:22 PM
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Re: Salvation for the deaf and mute?: Say it ain't
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
By virtue ... a deaf person can speak ... but my question applies to a deaf/mute ...
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Rarely is a deaf person mute...that is an ancient term...used about 35 years ago.
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05-20-2008, 01:22 PM
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Re: Salvation for the deaf and mute?: Say it ain't
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I met a mute that spoke in tongues when the Spirit of God moved upon him.
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Absolutely. Ther is only one way to get the Holy Ghost!
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05-20-2008, 01:24 PM
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Re: Salvation for the deaf and mute?: Say it ain't
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Can't they just sign in tongues??
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In Daniel's scenario, NO!
But then there is God. Who doesn't need any language.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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05-20-2008, 01:26 PM
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Re: Salvation for the deaf and mute?: Say it ain't
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Originally Posted by Rhoni
Rarely is a deaf person mute...that is an ancient term...used about 35 years ago.
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I did go to church with a deaf/mute years ago. She could make some sounds, but no words that were recognizable. Is that still considered mute?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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05-20-2008, 01:49 PM
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Re: Salvation for the deaf and mute?: Say it ain't
My wife is deaf and she has spoken in tongues. When she went to college in Jackson, MS she took maybe 10 or 12 deaf people to church with her and most of them spoke in tongues as well.
I think she took them to Bro. Dillon's church in Madison.
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05-20-2008, 02:12 PM
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Re: Salvation for the deaf and mute?: Say it ain't
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Question ... could someone, in some OP circles, be saved if both the baptizer and baptizee were deaf and mute and did not know how to sign ? Would they be obeying Acts 2:38 if the proper name was not invoked over them by the baptizer during baptism or the believer did not speak in tongues if it was all done in their head?
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With all the Apostolic power around here, I would think somebody would 'cast out" that deaf and dumb spirit, then they could speak and think like the rest of us...
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05-20-2008, 02:26 PM
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Re: Salvation for the deaf and mute?: Say it ain't
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Um ... not possible ... I also stated in my question that said persons do not know how to sign ...
Can the baptizer still baptize the person in Jesus name ....?
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Granted this may come across as blasphemy in some circles.
What is said over the candidate is not paramount.
In baptism "in the name of" means by whose authority.
What most don't take into account is that the candidate and baptizer don't just magically appear in the water together with no interaction beforehand.
The candidate has had a previous communication and repented, declared Jesus Christ as their Lord, determined to follow Him in all things, and wish to be identified with the body of believers.
If this has not happened prior to baptism, then it really doesn't matter if anything is said in the water the person is just getting wet.
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